Re[4]: What can I do, you may ask?

+1 to David. I'd also fail under 1.3.1 and bounce the back to the 
client.

Thanks

Josh

------ Original Message ------
From: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>
To: "Joshue O Connor - InterAccess" <josh@interaccess.ie>
Cc: "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl>; "Glenda Sims" 
<glenda.sims@deque.com>; "Alastair Campbell" <acampbell@nomensa.com>; 
"Andrew Kirkpatrick" <akirkpat@adobe.com>; "WCAG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Sent: 16/01/2018 12:54:16
Subject: Re: Re[2]: What can I do, you may ask?

>I wouldn't be too concerned about where untagged PDFs fit into the 
>mix....
>They could fail under several SCs but I just put them under 1.3.1 and 
>send
>them back to the author... and say I'll evaluate it after its tagged.
>
>Its a non-starter with me when I'm evaluating content.
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>On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <
>josh@interaccess.ie> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl>
>>To: "'Glenda Sims'" <glenda.sims@deque.com>; "Alastair Campbell" <
>>acampbell@nomensa.com>
>>[...]
>>
>>My two cents…
>>
>>
>>1. Graphics and User Interface Components Contrast” (Too long?)
>>=> Don’t think “too long” is a good enough reason not to be fully 
>>clear on
>>what we’re trying to express
>>
>>
>>
>>+1 to adding User interface components to this SC title, as it gives a
>>much clearer overview of what the SC is about.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Josh
>>
>>
>>
>>1. “Graphics and Component Contrast”
>>=> we use and have a definition for the term UIC (User Interface
>>Component) so if we mean that term, we should use it, otherwise what 
>>do we
>>mean with “Component” as stand-alone term? may cause 
>>incomprehensibility.
>>
>>
>>1. “Non-Text Contrast”
>>
>>=> This is an interesting one…!!! Not sure how it’s done all over the
>>world BUT 1.1.1 is used by the Accessibility Foundation (and I’ve seen
>>others do the same) to fail non-tagged PDF’s. As PDFs are PostScript 
>>like
>>files they’re seen as Non-Text content. Using the term “Non-Text 
>>Contrast”
>>and applying it to the text of the PDF is technically explainable but 
>>also
>>odd.
>>
>>For these reasons I lean towards 1) Graphics and User Interface 
>>Components
>>Contrast”
>>
>>From: Glenda Sims [mailto:glenda.sims@deque.com]
>>Sent: maandag 15 januari 2018 22:22
>>To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
>>Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>>Subject: Re: What can I do, you may ask?
>>
>>Alastair,
>>
>>
>>1. Graphics and User Interface Components Contrast” (Too long?)
>>2. “Graphics and Component Contrast”
>>3. “Non-Text Contrast”
>>
>>I could live with any of these. To be in harmony with WCAG 2.0...I 
>>lean
>>toward 3) "Non-Text Contrast".
>>
>>G
>>
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>>
>>On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Alastair Campbell 
>><acampbell@nomensa.com
>><mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>> wrote:
>>I’ve drafted these:
>>282
>>411
>>649
>>680
>>686
>>
>>For 616, it is about the title of “Graphics contrast” not covering UI
>>components.
>>Alternative suggestions are:
>>
>>
>>1. “Graphics and User Interface Components Contrast” (Too long?)
>>2. “Graphics and Component Contrast”
>>3. “Non-Text Contrast”
>>
>>Any preference? I lean towards 2, but could live with 3.
>>
>>-Alastair
>>
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