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RE: CFC - Changes to Target Size for Issue 631

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:00:35 +0000
To: Kathy Wahlbin <kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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  *   -1  As mentioned on previous call, changing the SC to single dimension is not meeting the needs of the end user.

I second that Kathy.    If we aren’t meeting the needs of the user by having a 2 pixel by 44 pixel thumb on a slider then there is no point in adding this SC.  I’d be open to some sort of diameter measurement or something like that if it provided flexibility but still met the user’s needs.  Just using area alone doesn’t solve that.

Jonathan

From: Kathy Wahlbin [mailto:kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:31 PM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: CFC - Changes to Target Size for Issue 631

-1  As mentioned on previous call, changing the SC to single dimension is not meeting the needs of the end user.

What if we went back to 44x44 CSS pixels and added an additional exception that the minimum target size does not need to be met if there is sufficient spacing between targets.  That would help users with tremors and other mobility challenges to be more successful in hitting the target area while allowing designers to have smaller target regions.

So the designer would have two options – meet the minimum requirements for target size (keeping the current exceptions) or having a smaller target size but making sure that targets have minimum spacing between them.



From: Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:55 PM
To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: CFC - Changes to Target Size for Issue 631
Importance: High

Call For Consensus — ends January 12 at 1:45pm Boston time.

The Working Group has discussed a change to the Target Size SC in response to issue 631 (https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/631) and discussion. This was discussed on the call (https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-ag-minutes.html#item06).

The specific changes are detailed in this pull request: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/678  (see implemented at http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/Issue631/guidelines/index.html#target-size)

If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe

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