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RE: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

From: Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 22:26:47 +0000
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
CC: "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <30f0ccbc9811468db06f629117f4159c@XCH15-08-08.nw.nos.boeing.com>
I think the bit I struggle with is how you dismiss the additional content without moving the pointer?
[Steve] Keyboard or even mouse buttons in some applications.  The user expectation is always going to be ESC.

So you hover over something, additional content appears, and “A mechanism is available to dismiss the additional content without moving pointer hover”.
[Steve] Right.

If your interaction is primarily using the mouse, would you think to use the escape key?
[Steve] Yes, I do so frequently on such content.  The ARIA authoring practice for role=”tooltip” recommends mapping ESC and many sites and JS libraries already do it.  For example, tooltips in Gmail and GitHub already pass.  In my view, it’s come to be an expected behaviour.

I assume it is still ok to mouse-out from the trigger & new content and it is dismissed, but does everything form of popover/additional content require an esc event?
[Steve] Yes, of course onmouseout would dismiss it – that’s a fundamental property of the content we’re talking about here and this is reinforced by the Persistent bullet.  With regard to every form having ESC dismiss it, why is that such a problem?  Are you stuck thinking about modal-type content that is not in scope here?



From: Repsher, Stephen J

Hi David,

Thanks for scratching your comment about moving the pointer but I’ll try to explain anyway.  I’m not sure I understand your issue, but having to move the pointer hover elsewhere means that a magnified view potentially has to change its view area, so then the user has to carefully try to move things back into view without triggering again.  This is not an easy feat for low vision users who probably don’t see the pointer all that well in the first place.  Basically, the user wants to get the magnified viewport how they want it without worrying about tiptoeing and zigzagging the pointer around to avoid author-placed land mines.  Does that answer your question?

I’m also getting confused by your technique of dismissing with a context menu.  Can you go into more detail?


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