Re: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

Would be good to hear from Steve about David’s last question (“without moving the pointer”)…

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AWK

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From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 09:09
To: "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: Melanie Philipp <melanie.philipp@deque.com>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>
Subject: Re: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 09:06

I agree with going back to using popup, or something similar and then defining it.

For me, "overlay" makes me think of a light box, dialogue box etc., which is not generally a hover based popup... but could live with it if it's defined or clear in another way the the SC is not talking about those things.

I also hope we address the first bullet regarding closing the popup "without moving the pointer". The pointer can't do anything without moving, can it?


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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:53 AM, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>> wrote:
I think we should explore this option to see whether it covers the desired cases – and only them.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:35 AM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>>
Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>; Abma, J.D. (Jake) <Jake.Abma@ing.nl<mailto:Jake.Abma@ing.nl>>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>; Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com<mailto:stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>>
Subject: Re: Issue 650 Does the Hover or focus SC apply to tabbed interfaces?

Did you explore the word "overlay"? As in:

"When pointer hover or keyboard focus triggers additional content that overlays other content, the following are true:"

Perhaps no new definition would be required with this approach.

Melanie Philipp, CPACC, WAS
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:59 AM, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>> wrote:


From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 5:00 AM

I agree it would help to have something like ‘pop-over’ as the target of the SC. I’m fairly sure we did at one stage, Steve (CCed) might be able to remember why we dropped that?
[Jason] The term was used (with disagreement about whether it should be “popup” or “popover”), but I don’t recall there being a definition. It was relatively uncontroversial, as I recall, that these terms did not have a generally accepted meaning that was clear or precise enough to meet our testability requirements.


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