Re: CFC - Change Zoom Content to Reflow Content and change SC text

​I agree with Stephen's observation. Perhaps "equivalent to" could be
replaced by "greater than or equivalent to". ​


On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Repsher, Stephen J <
stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com> wrote:

> -1
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> As I expressed on the call, survey, and GitHub, I cannot live with this
> new version.  It has been communicated over and over again that zooming
> without reflow results in a huge amount of extra work for the low vision
> user, and this new proposal simply does not require responsive reflow.
> Furthermore, we are still expecting to tout this as a low vision benefit
> for approximately 400% zoom, yet zoom was removed as the mechanism so
> there’s no guarantee the user can even achieve this without faking their
> viewport width.
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> Going along with just reflow, I proposed text that would in fact guarantee
> responsive reflow, and the concern was raised over the burden on testers to
> guarantee conformance at every pixel width above 320.  In response, I was
> fine with compromising to a couple extra test widths to fill out a curve
> with a constant zoom factor.  So if a median desktop of 1280px was assumed
> and thus 320 is at 4x, then the factor for 3 test widths would be 4^(1/3) =
> 1.59.  This corresponds to test widths of 806, 508, and 320, and I rounded
> off the latter two to 800 and 500 but anything close would be acceptable.
> So the SC would just become:
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> Reflow: Content can be presented at widths equivalent to 320, 500, and 800
> CSS pixels without loss of information or functionality, and without
> requiring scrolling in two dimensions, except for parts of the content
> which require two-dimensional layout for usage or meaning.
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> There seemed to be many folks who could live with this approach, and I do
> not think it was considered fairly.  I’d welcome  substantiated claims as
> to why this is still so burdensome.  And although it still doesn’t truly
> guarantee a fully reflowing design, it does help low vision folks to find 1
> of 3 spots at their comfortable zoom level that does not come with the
> extra burden of scrolling in 2 dimensions.
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> Steve
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> *From:* Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:25 PM
> *To:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* CFC - Change Zoom Content to Reflow Content and change SC text
> *Importance:* High
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> Call For Consensus — ends Thursday November 16th at 12:30pm Boston time.
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> The Working Group has discussed a change to Zoom Content SC. The specific
> changes are detailed in this survey: https://www.w3.org/
> 2002/09/wbs/35422/ZoomContent_20171109/results
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> Call minutes: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/14-ag-minutes.html
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> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not
> been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not
> being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before
> the CfC deadline.
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
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> Adobe
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> akirkpat@adobe.com
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