Re: CFC - Device Sensors

+1 with the same caveats as Jason.

On 8/31/2017 9:58 AM, White, Jason J wrote:
>
> I prefer Steve’s note. I can live without it, as the entire proposal 
> is about to be revisited anyway.
>
> Thus, I give a +1 to the CfC, on the understanding that it’s merely a 
> procedural device to allow reconsideration of this proposal after 
> August. I would not support the current text later in the WCAG 2.1 
> process, due to the difficulties pointed out repeatedly in the working 
> group’s discussion of the proposal.
>
> *From:*Repsher, Stephen J [mailto:stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:48 PM
> *To:* Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* RE: CFC - Device Sensors
>
> The editor’s note change I proposed to more accurately cover the 
> issues is not reflected here.  It was:
>
> Editors´ Note: The Working Group is aware of issues surrounding both 
> the wide scope of device sensors for this SC and confusion over 
> redundancy with SC 2.1.1. These are expected to be addressed soon, and 
> draft new wording for review focused on motion actuation is available 
> at https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/67#issuecomment-325716721 
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> Steve
>
> *From:*Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:11 PM
> *To:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
> *Subject:* CFC - Device Sensors
> *Importance:* High
>
> Call For Consensus — ends Tuesday September 5th at 12:00pm Boston time.
>
> We received an appeal on a previous decision which we have discussed 
> with proponents and objectors and came up with a plan that minimally 
> revises the SC through the addition of an ednote to the SC and are now 
> running a new CFC to seek the approval of the group.
>
> The Working Group has reviewed and approved a new Success Criteria 
> 'Device Sensors' for inclusion in the editor’s draft, with the goal of 
> obtaining additional input external to the working group.
>
> Call minutes: http://www.w3.org/2017/08/22-ag-minutes.html 
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> The new SC can be reviewed here, in the context of the full draft:
>
> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/device-sensors_ISSUE-67/guidelines/sc/21/device-sensors.html 
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>
> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have 
> not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you 
> “not being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know 
> before the CfC deadline.
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
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> Adobe
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