Re: AAA SC for coga

minimize user errors: issue 13 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/13>

If the first bullet is left off then it is reasonably non controversial.
Many usability professionals are advising against drop downs especially for
older people and those who are less technical, and there is no time to
reconcile this with the SC which would effectively require drop down select
boxes. So here is what it would look like without that item.


   1. Where numerical data needs to be manually entered, a user can leave
   out separator characters or use alternative separator characters except
   where leaving out or substituting separator characters could alter the
   numeric value, such as substituting commas with periods.

I could live with this at AAA without further discussion taking our
bandwidth ...

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On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> For provide support: issues/32 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/32>
>
> Perhaps this can be rolled into 3.3.2 Labels or Instructions, in the
> understanding.
>
>
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> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:58 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> For the plain language SC  issues/41
>> <https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/41>
>>
>> We could possibly leverage the language at the front of 4.1.1 Where it
>> says "In content implemented using markup languages, "
>>
>> Perhaps we could say :"In content implemented using the English language"
>>
>> Or
>>
>> "In content implemented using latin based languages"
>>
>> Or some other finite group of languages to which these "rules" are known
>> to be effective
>> ​.
>>
>> I'm not a linguist and I don't know if these rules are actually always
>> indicated, nor do I know to which languages they could be applied ... but
>> this might be a way to get the SC into the standard at AAA​
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
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>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think symbols could be a low hanging fruit for AAA
>>>
>>> >A mechanism is available such that controls that are used to reach, or
>>> are part of, a critical service, and each instruction that contains important
>>> information that directly relates to a critical service, is preceded by
>>> a symbol or picture, which relates to the topic of the control or
>>> instruction.
>>>
>>> Critical Service:
>>>
>>> service that is needed to prevent significant harm, risk or loss such
>>> as: significant financial loss, illness, injury or deterioration in a
>>> patient's condition or effective loss of rights or freedoms
>>>
>>> Note: I would drop "or effective loss of rights or freedoms".  I think
>>> that is an ever evolving term and not stable like the rest of the list.
>>> (perhaps it could be revised narrower to "allocation of self determination"
>>> or something similar.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
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>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think all of the proposals cited below, in their current form, have
>>>> significant issues which are independent of the level assignment. Thus, I
>>>> wouldn’t recommend any of them for inclusion in a draft as they currently
>>>> stand, whether at level AAA or at another level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, it may be possible to turn one or more of them into a clearly
>>>> written, focused, reliably testable proposal. I won’t try to guess which
>>>> ones would be easiest to revise adequately; in general, they have
>>>> difficulties that lack obvious solutions. The difficulties aren’t related
>>>> to the kinds of issues that determine whether a proposal belongs at Level
>>>> AAA or not. Based on a quick reading, Minimize user Errors seems to be more
>>>> precisely defined than the rest, but even it has issues that we’ve
>>>> discussed in the past and which remain in what seems to be the latest
>>>> version in GitHub.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be worth comparing with David MacDonald’s list of proposals
>>>> that he thinks are on track to possible inclusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:09 PM
>>>> *To:* W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>>>> *Cc:* White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
>>>> *Subject:* AAA SC for coga
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> please could you take a look and see if you think the following success
>>>> criteria can get though at AAA? It wpould be realy helpful to have your
>>>> feedback as soon as possible so we can prioritize what to put forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> plain language - enhanced: issues/41
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F41&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0c7d1efa39b349dd2f7608d4d37fe74a%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636365993671200910&sdata=owDbh5ALfpQckQUgZkPk5%2BGczoQSaq5y5%2F5e4bOZtHU%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>
>>>> symbols: issues/50
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F50&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0c7d1efa39b349dd2f7608d4d37fe74a%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636365993671200910&sdata=rqtgaWFs25TWgI2PjkdDQk15qM9wM6mtZ9xH%2FzmmyZY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>
>>>> provide support: issues/32
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F32&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0c7d1efa39b349dd2f7608d4d37fe74a%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636365993671200910&sdata=ZfwH1pAfs4CvuXpBaVuMZKItyL7vu%2FYU1znkzfVr5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>
>>>> minamize user errors: issue 13
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F13&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0c7d1efa39b349dd2f7608d4d37fe74a%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636365993671200910&sdata=VWndI7lxy17BH9V3fChguLIc6j9JGWIJrKZsx%2Brq0ys%3D&reserved=0>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We also have support personlization at AAA which is also very important
>>>> (issue 309
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F309&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0c7d1efa39b349dd2f7608d4d37fe74a%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636365993671200910&sdata=%2B1SZrExdY9Szm3%2Fed0mu7WtGO0zJson26KUpDa4TG3c%3D&reserved=0>)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Lisa Seeman
>>>>
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