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RE: CfC: Approve draft charter for AC review

From: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:35:22 +0800
To: "'Katie Haritos-Shea'" <ryladog@gmail.com>, "'Joshue O Connor'" <josh@interaccess.ie>
Cc: "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "'David MacDonald'" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "'Andrew Kirkpatrick'" <akirkpat@adobe.com>
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+1 from me (lurking in the background – sorry I’ve been rather silent lately, but I’ve been listening)

 

 

 

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From: Katie Haritos-Shea [mailto:ryladog@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2016 4:18 PM
To: Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>; Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Subject: Re: CfC: Approve draft charter for AC review

 

-1.
I do NOT agree that we have consensus. 

Whether ir not something has been discussed before or not is not the point.

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On Oct 12, 2016 9:54 AM, "Joshue O Connor" <josh@interaccess.ie <mailto:josh@interaccess.ie> > wrote:

Hi David, 

I think we did reach a place where the majority of the group members,  at least on the call, could live with us signaling a more regular update cycle. 

The question is what form that would take.  The balance seems to be signalling intent to have a three year cycle, but not necessarily committing to it.  We can review our status at those times,  and release new SCs etc if we feel it is appropriate at that time. 

That seems to be the most reasonable way to work it. I'm also exercising some faith and goodwill towards the work of the Silver team, that after 2.1 is live,  we will be well into the FPWD of Silver. 

If this is the case and the work is substantial and taking real shape then the efforts/energy of the group will go fully behind Silver. Otherwise maintaining a more regular dot.x release cycle is a practical alternative to allow us to keep WCAG a vibrant relevant standard. 

Can you live with this? 

Thanks 

Josh 

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On 12 Oct 2016, at 02:59, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote:

Ohhh... that's why.  


I'm looking at section 3.1 Normative Specifications 

It doesn't look like my concern was addressed, bec ause we have a section called "normative specifications" in which we say we will do "regular updates" which means we have adopted a different model from WCAG 2 which was was released when it was complete (rather than on a time) and had widespread approval. So it seems like it has been decided that we will ship on a schedule rather than when the spec is ready. Does that not worry anyone else? I was hoping we could come to consensus about whether we were actually going to ship on a set schedule. 




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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com <mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com> > wrote: 

 

Not sure what to tell you - I just followed the link and see the following: 


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On Oct 11, 2016, at 7:57 PM, David MacDonald < david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: 

I 

​'ve looked on 3 computers and I keep seeing the version​ 

​ with the following 

 sentence  

 

"The Working Group intends to produce regular updates for WCAG guidelines, starting with WCAG 2.1. The public schedule for the updates is documented in the AG WG Project Management Plan."  

 

​I believe the consensus changed that sentence. 




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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:19 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: 

PS the link to the minutes seems to go to the AUG 23 meeting?? 




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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:13 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: 

​This seems to be the same document that we had going into the call...  

 

   <http://www.w3.org/2016/09/draft-wcag-charter> http://www.w3.org/2016/09/draft-wcag-charter   

 

is there a version with the amended text that we came to consensus to, on the call. 




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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com <mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com> > wrote: 

CALL FOR CONSENSUS – ends Thursday October 13 at 1:00pm Boston time. 

 

This is a CfC seeking WG approval to release the current draft charter for AC review.   The item was surveyed, discussed on the WG call, and approved ( http://www.w3.org/2016/10/11-wai-wcag-minutes.html <http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>  ). There was much discussion leading up to the call, and on the call, and the group felt that a consensus opinion was reached on key items. 

 

Draft charter:  http://www.w3.org/2016/09/draft-wcag-charter  

 

If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this position, please let the group know before the CfC deadline. 

 

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