Re: Parallax and vestibular disorders

Thanks for bringing up this issue, Alastair. The SwissAir site is horrible and a great example of unnecessary complexity and noxious animation.
The stories about vestibular issues are moving.

Mike
 

    On Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:30 AM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Alastair,

Asking a person with first-hand experience can't hurt to inform the issue.

It seems like Nat (Gregory) Tarnoff is now working for SSB BART Group
[1]. I think we have a few working group members who also work there
such as Jon Avila. Maybe that may be a way to reach out. But the
Chairs may know the best approach.

Kindest Regards,
Laura

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/nattarnoff?authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=Genk&locale=en_US&trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Amynetwork%2CclickedEntityId%3A37142283%2CauthType%3ANAME_SEARCH%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1469708098940%2Ctas%3AGreg%20Tarnoff

On 7/28/16, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote:
> Thanks Laura, those links (and the video especially) are really useful.
>
> David wrote:
> “We would want to get out of the theoretical possibility of it being a
> problem into real world problems that actual users are having”
>
> Of course, but to a large extent it is the same problem as for animation
> (2.2.2) but with a different trigger.
> Do we have to prove the need again?
>
> The new trigger I’d like to define is when:
> - Animation is triggered by a user action, AND
> - The animation is not typically associated with the user-action, AND
> - The animation fills a large part of the screen.
>
> The video interview with Greg [1] is very helpful for examples, things in
> the video that wouldn’t be covered under 2.2.2 were:
> - Parallax scrolling, where the user-action is to scroll, but the animation
> is not normally associated with scrolling.
> Examples included things moving at different speeds; or rotating; or
> ‘zooming in’; or coming in from the side when vertically scrolling; or
> fading in.
> - Mouse hover which tilts an image. A large image moves in a 3D way based on
> mouse movement.
>
> Picking holes in the proposal:
> - It is possible to prevent the animations on the user-agent side. However,
> a blanket ‘off switch’ would break functionality (or readability) on sites
> which assume it is available, I think there is a need for an authoring side
> SC.
> - There needs to be a minimum size defined because I don’t think that
> typical navigation hover/focus effects on a menu are a problem. Perhaps it
> could include something based on the flash threshold definition?
>
> Any other holes? If not, I’ll iterate the draft SC text [2] as it doesn’t
> include the ‘not typically associated’ or minimum size aspects yet.
>
> It would be helpful to get someone with first-hand experience involved, what
> would be the next step on that?
> Ask Greg? (The person in the video.)  If so, should I, or is there an
> official method?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Alastair
>
> 1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnIZh0xwk0
> 2] 2.x.x User initiated animation:  For animation triggered by a user action
> (such as scrolling) there is a mechanism for the user to pause, stop or hide
> the animation whilst still performing the same action. (Level AA?)
>
>


-- 
Laura L. Carlson