- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 12:23:16 -0500
- To: W3c-Wai-Gl <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Thad C <inclusivethinking@gmail.com>
Greg Tarnoff may me a good person to consult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnIZh0xwk0 http://simplyaccessible.com/article/animations/ http://simplyaccessible.com/article/balance-awareness/ His site: http://tarnoff.info/ Kindest Regards, Laura On 7/27/16, Thad C <inclusivethinking@gmail.com> wrote: > >From my perspective this is an important topic. The following organization > provides information and advocacy. > > http://vestibular.org/ > > I would be interested in joining their community. > > Best, > Thaddeus > On Jul 27, 2016 9:58 AM, "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> I think it's worth exploring... We would want to get out of the >> theoretical possibility of it being a problem into real world problems >> that >> actual users are having ... the article dates back to iOs 7 and a cursory >> reading of it seemed that the author was saying dizziness is a >> possibility >> but again was a theoretical possibility, not an outcry from users. >> >> I've heard it is a problem for some users, but have never met a user >> who's >> really had serious problems from it... but the next step would be to talk >> to some users, preferably a user group representing them, to gather more >> data on the real world problems they have. >> >> For our photo epileptic SC in about 2003, we had a presentation at the >> Los >> Angeles face to face by an organization in England that came to us with >> the >> proposal. I would hope for something similar here so we are talking to >> people who are really serious about the issue. >> >> Does anyone know of such a user group or place to talk to users? >> >> Cheers, >> David MacDonald >> >> >> >> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* >> Tel: 613.235.4902 >> >> LinkedIn >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> >> >> twitter.com/davidmacd >> >> GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> >> >> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> >> >> >> >> * Adapting the web to all users* >> * Including those with disabilities* >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy >> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Alastair Campbell >> <acampbell@nomensa.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> This might have been covered somewhere (COGA?), but I couldn’t find it >>> if >>> it has. >>> >>> >>> >>> Has anyone considered new criteria for people with vestibular type >>> issues? >>> >>> >>> >>> It isn’t something I’m expert on, but there’s a good overview here: >>> >>> >>> http://alistapart.com/article/designing-safer-web-animation-for-motion-sensitivity >>> >>> >>> >>> The issue that doesn’t seem to be covered is when you scroll a page >>> (usually vertically, but sometimes horizontally) and things move at >>> different speeds. E.g. the background moves more slowly than the >>> foreground >>> to give an impression of depth/distance. >>> >>> >>> >>> That can trigger disorientation, nausea and/or loss of balance. When iOS >>> 7 came out quite a lot of people reported motion sickness [1]. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is in the same area as 2.2.2 (Pause, Stop, Hide) but that doesn’t >>> cover a scrolling based mechanism. (It does mention scrolling, but I >>> read >>> that as something that scrolls on its own, not that the animation >>> happens >>> whilst the user scrolls the page.) >>> >>> >>> >>> You might argue the user is in control, but if they have to scroll to >>> use >>> it, they cannot use it (see the examples in the alistapart article >>> above). >>> >>> As an example (if you don’t have any disorder) try scrolling this page: >>> http://www.world-of-swiss.com/en >>> >>> >>> >>> You don’t have to use that mechanism, but if you do, whoosh! I’ve >>> brought >>> that example up for magnification users before, but it must be terrible >>> for >>> people with vestibular issues. >>> >>> >>> >>> Off the top of my head an SC could be something like: >>> >>> 2.x.x User initiated animation: For animation triggered by a user >>> action >>> (such as scrolling) there is a mechanism for the user to pause, stop or >>> hide the animation whilst still performing the same action. (Level AA?) >>> >>> >>> >>> I think it needs narrowing down, but I wanted to see if it is worth >>> proposing or if someone already had? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> -Alastair >>> >>> >>> >>> 1] A poll at http://www.imore.com/ios-7-and-motion-sickness-poll not >>> scientific by any means but that’s quite a lot of people reporting an >>> issue. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Alastair Campbell >>> >>> >>> >>> www.nomensa.com >>> >>> tel: +44 (0)117 929 7333 / 07970 879 653 >>> >>> follow us: @we_are_nomensa or me: @alastc >>> >>> >>> >>> Nomensa Ltd. King William House, 13 Queen Square, Bristol BS1 4NT >>> >>> Company number: 4214477 | UK VAT registration: GB 771727411 >>> >> >> > -- Laura L. Carlson
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