- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:53:37 -0500
- To: "'David MacDonald'" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Cc: "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Question: Do we currently have (or envision) a Success Criteria that mandates “links lists”? While super-useful to screen reader users, how do I, as a sighted non-screen-reader user get a similar construct in my user-agent? Or is it solely dependent on the Assistive Technology to provide this accommodation (shortcut/enhancement)? Is this *just* for blind users? Once again, it seems like we are driving towards mandated patterns, and not abstracted functional requirements: If we want to see the ability to expose a list of links for all users (I could see this being a benefit to some cognitively challenged users as well) then whatever we write up must be achievable in such a way as to not be dependent on a specific pattern or software. JF From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:44 PM To: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Subject: Re: (WCAG 2.1) Do we want to replace "programmatically determined link context" in 2.4.4 with "Accessible Name"? The aria-describedby does not factor into accessible name calculation, only the accessible description calculation. So it won't appear in a links list. The Title will if there is no other Accessible Name. Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd <http://twitter.com/davidmacd> <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> GitHub www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> > wrote: On 19/07/2016 15:41, Sailesh Panchang wrote: Plus another one for Greg's comment. One can also use title or aria-describedby to qualify what the linked text "Read more" relates to ... that is not an accessible name. Just on this one point, note that title, aria-describedby etc all form part of what's taken into consideration for the accessible name calculation of an HTML element - see https://www.w3.org/TR/html-aapi/#accessible-name-and-description-calculation P -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk <http://www.splintered.co.uk> | https://github.com/patrickhlauke http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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