Re: Re[2]: (WCAG 2.1) Do we want to replace ​"programmatically determined link context" in 2.4.4 with "Accessible Name"?

Programmatically determined always did have to much of the theory of
algorithms feel to it. The term probably reminds programmers of an
unpleasant part of their education.

All we want to say is that presentations that are ambiguous if you have a
sensory loss can be explicitly linked to something that clarifies the
meaning. How could we say that without getting too theoretical.

Wayne



On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:26 AM, josh@interaccess.ie <josh@interaccess.ie>
wrote:

> I also think the terms are too similar - but I know where David is coming
> from with this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com>
> To: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>
> Cc: "WCAG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Sent: 19/07/2016 17:07:07
> Subject: Re: (WCAG 2.1) Do we want to replace ​"programmatically
> determined link context" in 2.4.4 with "Accessible Name"?
>
>
> I hope you don't mean the accessible name as in the accessible name
> computation in ARIA 1.0 and 1.1.  That is out of the frying pan into the
> fire.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:13 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> ***This is proposed for version 2.1. NOT for 2.0 ***
>>
>> Do we want to consider replacing
>> ​"
>> programmatically determined link context" with "Accessible name" in
>> 2.4.4.
>>
>> This will simplify the requirement, eliminate that awkward definition
>> that few developers understood, and ensure that when screen reader users
>> pull up a list of links on on conforming page, they will not get "learn
>> more" etc... because screen readers provide the accessible name in the
>> links list, not just the link text. So an aria-label or aria-labelledby
>> will render a meaningful text in the list. AccessibleName wasn't well
>> understood or supported back in 2006-2008.
>>
>> ===Current===
>>
>> 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context): The purpose of each link can be
>> determined from the link text alone or from the link text together with its
>> ​​
>> programmatically determined link context, except where the purpose of the
>> link would be ambiguous to users in general. (Level A)
>>
>> ​=== Proposal change===
>>
>> 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context): The purpose of each link can be
>> determined from the link text alone or Accessible Name, except where the
>> purpose of the link would be ambiguous to users in general. (Level A)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David MacDonald
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