Re: Jonathan's concern: Zoom in responsive drops content

excellent points

- we need to have something more concrete and testable  — WITHOUT the author having to make an assumption about screen size, pixels etc.

- also — if we go with Jason’s suggestion that it exclude things that cannot be wrapped — we need to clearly and objectively define what that is.   Many authors would say (inaccurately) that their site cannot be wrapped and still make sense - or work.    (Well — maybe it is accurate the way they programmed it — but I meant no accurate for the type of info they are presenting. )    But for others it is true — it can’t be wrapped - or made to be functional without horizontal scrolling  (panning) .        I can’t figure out how to define the  line…..     examples doesnt cut it.    

hmmmm

gregg

> On Jul 4, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> wrote:
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>> [Jason] Could you be more specific about the scenarios that you have in mind? Resizing text without assistive technology cannot reduce content or functionality (up to the 200% limit
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> This is also dependent on your screen resolution as well.
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> Say I go to a site at 102x768 on my desktop that as full functionality.  I zoom in to 200% and I only get some functionality because the responsive site as assumed I'm on a mobile and has removed some functionality.  I say this fails.
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> Joe developer that makes the website goes to the same website on his computer with 1600x800 resolution and zooms in to 200% and he stays in the desktop site because the breakpoint is never triggered.  He says it passes.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: White, Jason J [mailto:jjwhite@ets.org] 
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 1:46 PM
> To: Jonathan Avila; public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org; WCAG
> Subject: RE: Jonathan's concern: Zoom in responsive drops content
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com]
>> I'd just like to be able to access all of the same functionality when 
>> I zoom or use low resolution on the desktop even if it means having to 
>> horizontally scroll.  The horizontal scroll issue is a secondary item 
>> to this request IMO -- it's important but may need to be addressed with different wording.
> [Jason] Could you be more specific about the scenarios that you have in mind? Resizing text without assistive technology cannot reduce content or functionality (up to the 200% limit, which could be extended, if so desired, under WCAG 2.1). Resizing with assistive technology presumably doesn't affect the layout, since screen magnifiers are transparent to the code and styles running in the user agent. Thus I'm not sure in what circumstances your issue occurs.
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