RE: CfC: Minor change to Image Tutorial requested by EOWG

+1 to accept the change

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From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
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Subject: Re: CfC: Minor change to Image Tutorial requested by EOWG

+1 to accept change...

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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com<mailto:wayneedick@gmail.com>> wrote:
+1

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> wrote:
CALL FOR CONSENSUS – ends Tuesday December 15 at 2:30am Boston time.

EOWG received a request for a change to the complex images tutorial (http://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/images/complex/).  This change is relatively minor in that it is not changing whether any of the information on the page is available, just the ordering of the options for authors to be aware of.   We are proposing to accept the changes as described below and approve updating the document online.

The concern is that the Longdesc approach is listed first and the commenter expressed that given limitations in longdesc support perhaps it would be better to list other approaches before longdesc. Please review the change, details below.

The issue:
* Page: Images Tutorial - Complex Images <http://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/images/complex/>
* Reviewer suggested changes:
+ Move longdesc from 1st to 4th approach <https://github.com/stevefaulkner/wai-tutorials/commit/04468f2b656348de30e0432915227fd298dc3aec>
+ Add "Warning!" and icon, change "all users" to "mouse users" <https://github.com/stevefaulkner/wai-tutorials/commit/305fd9fd69d161a5c4ba4203d84dbe9216f9aaa3>
* Rationale: <https://github.com/w3c/wai-tutorials/issues/330>

EOWG Resolved to do accept the pull request and make minor text changes:
*  *Move longdesc from 1st to 4th approach*
(Additional minor edits were made from the pull request to accommodate the change.)
* *Change text* from:
"In Firefox, long descriptions linked by longdesc are available to all users through “View description” in the image’s context menu."
to:
"In Firefox, long descriptions linked by longdesc are available through “View description” in the image’s context menu."
(Note: We were tempted to make other changes to polish the wording of the sentence and others around it, but we refrained from that tangent. We request others to also limit comments to important aspects.)
* *Do not add Warning and icon*.

See it:
* Above changes in draft: <http://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/images/complex/>
* Diff marked version: <http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http://w3.org/WAI/tutorials/images/complex/&doc2=https://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/images/complex/>

If you have concerns about this proposal and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this position, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

More info:
* EOWG minutes 11 Dec 2015 <http://www.w3.org/2015/12/11-eo-minutes#item08>
* It is likely a new approach for long textual descriptions will be provided the first part of next year. If you want more info on the Long Text Mechanism Issue:
** TPAC Minutes: http://www.w3.org/2015/10/29-dpub-minutes.html#item03

** Dpub Comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Oct/0120.html

** Analysis Tool: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis.html

** Email Thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Jul/0049.html

** ARIA Minutes: <http://www.w3.org/2015/08/13-aria-minutes.html> & <http://www.w3.org/2015/11/12-aria-minutes.html#item03>
* EOWG minutes 30 Jan 2015 http://www.w3.org/2015/01/30-eo-minutes#item04

* EOWG minutes 6 Feb 2015 http://www.w3.org/2015/02/06-eo-minutes.html#item08


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