- From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 00:34:27 +0000
- To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Paul Adam <paul.adam@deque.com>
- CC: "josh@interaccess.ie" <josh@interaccess.ie>, Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Makoto UEKI <ueki@infoaxia.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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As a general FYI – I don’t consider that SC 1.1.1 applies to controls because of the following passage from the understanding document: Except for the situations listed below... Controls, Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (Refer to Guideline 4.1 for additional requirements for controls and content that accepts user input.) (Understanding SC 1.1.1<http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/text-equiv-all.html>) Furthermore, I read that standard controls are not covered under SC 4.1.2 as indicated by this note from understanding SC 4.1.2 Note: This success criterion is primarily for Web authors who develop or script their own user interface components. (Understanding SC 4.1.2<http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/ensure-compat-rsv.html>) So, IMO this is really a SC 3.3.2 and SC 1.3.1 topic and not SC 1.1.1 and not SC 4.1.2 – unless the understanding documents are out of sync with the groups understanding. Jonathan -- Jonathan Avila Chief Accessibility Officer SSB BART Group jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> 703-637-8957 (o) Follow us: Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/#%21/ssbbartgroup> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/#%21/SSBBARTGroup> | LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah> | Blog<http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog> | Newsletter<http://eepurl.com/O5DP> From: Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 6:35 PM To: Steve Faulkner; Paul Adam Cc: josh@interaccess.ie; Detlev Fischer; David MacDonald; Makoto UEKI; WCAG Subject: Re: CfC: Checkbox and Radio button labels and 1.3.1 <p><input type=“checkbox”> Please send me a ton of email</p> Apologies, but I am getting confused here. The code example passes 1.3.1 Info and Relationships because the content is grouped by the <p> element and passes 3.3.2 Labels or Instructions as the control has a visible prompt, but fails 1.1.1 Non-text Content and 4.1.2 Name, Role, Value as the control does not have a name. This may or may not pass 1.3.1 and 4.1.2/1.1.1 as a result of the implied relationship and the assistive technology support for that relationship. It is impossible to say that it passes or fails without that additional information. If I pick assistive technologies and browsers that read the accessibility name correctly from that undesirable markup then I would pass 4.1.2/1.1.1 as it has a programmatically determinable name and for the same reason I’d pass 1.3.1. If the name doesn’t get read, then it not only doesn’t have a programmatically determinable name but since the text that is used for the 3.3.2 label is right there the fact that it wasn’t recognized is a sign that the relationship isn’t programmatically determinable either. As a developer, this is just how you don’t want to do this. You want to pick a technique that provides greater rigor and predictability, but for WCAG 2.0 this will not always fail. There are a number of possible methods to resolve the failure state including: via label <p><label><input type=“checkbox”> Please send me a ton of email</label></p> AWK: This (or with the for/id attributes) is what WCAG techniques promote in the examples. Clearly the best, most native way. via aria-label or title attribute <p><input type=“checkbox” aria-label="Please send me a ton of email"> Please send me a ton of email</p> AWK: This also works. Some people on the list have disagreed saying that this fails 1.3.1. or via aria-labelledby <p id="label"><input type=“checkbox” aria-labelledby="label"> Please send me a ton of email</p> AWK: yep, also good. Does that help clarify at all Steve, or just mess it up further? AWK
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