Re: Open Issue #102

Agree with Gregg with a minor but significant difference on the second
bullet point. Drop the "to AT" part since 1.1.1 is not limited to people
using AT.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Mike Elledge <melledge@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Gregg!
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> Mike
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> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 2:42 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <
> gregg@raisingthefloor.org> wrote:
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> Hi
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>    - If there is nothing on the page that is visible (or audio) to anyone
>    — then there is no accessibility issue.
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>    - If there is a message that appears during the forward - and this is
>    not accessible to AT - then it is an accessibility issue and is covered
>    under  SC 1.1.1
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> ( PS     Failures are "documented common failures of SC”.   They don’t
> allow or forbid anything that is not allowed or forbidden by an SC.      If
> something is not a failure of an SC, it can’t be documented as a failure.
> So failures cannot be used to extend or amend WCAG.     Their purpose was
> just to make it clearer that some things were failures when they commonly
> occur - or when they are commonly misunderstood.  )
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> On Dec 1, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Mike Elledge <melledge@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi Everyone--
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> This is to seek your comments (toward consensus) for *Issue #102* (
> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/102).
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> In summary, Issue #102 occurs when a browser prevents auto-redirection to
> a new page and doesn't provide an explanation, forwarding link or address
> to the user.
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> *Point of view #1: *It is a usability issue, and not specific to persons
> with disabilities, since everyone will have the same negative experience.
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> *Point of view #2:* It will affect PWD more significantly, so it is an
> accessibility issue. Mapping it to a guideline is a problem, however.
> Success criteria for the most relevant guideline (3.2--Predictable) are not
> relevant since receiving focus (SC 3.2.1) or changing a setting (SC 3.2.2)
> do not change context. A possibility is to add this as an Advisory
> Technique to 3.2 or make it a failure.
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> Thoughts? Thanks!
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> Mike
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Regards,
Kurt Mattes
Senior Accessibility Consultant - Deque Systems
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