Re: CfC: Checkbox and Radio button labels and 1.3.1

Hi Andrew/Gregg, I’m still hoping to get a response to these questions:
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Hi Gregg, how do you make the relationship between the label and control programmatically determinable? 

I would think programmatic determination could be created between a label and it’s input via:

<label FOR/ID> (explicit labels)
<label><input></label> (wrapped labels)
<input aria-labelledby=“lbl”><span id=lbl>
<input aria-describedby=“lbl”><span id=lbl>


I’m not seeing how the title attribute on an input can create a programmatic determinable relationship. Title creates an accessible description or accessible name.

<input type=checkbox title=“I agree”><span>I agree</span>

I don’t see any programmatic relationship in that code.

Thanks!

Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist 
www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/>
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org <mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org>> wrote:
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> correct
> the requirement is not that it be programmatically connected — but that the relationship between the label and the control be programmatically determinable if it can be visually determinable (for example). 
> 
> g
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Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist 
www.deque.com

> On Nov 21, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:
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> CALL FOR CONSENSUS – ends Wednesday November 25 at 9am Boston time.
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> WCAGers,
> 
> We have discussed the issue raised in GitHub regarding the need for radio button and checkbox labels to be defined so that the labels are clickable (https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/122 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/122>). It seems that we have arrived at a consensus on this issue.
> 
> This was discussed on this thread: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2015OctDec/0193.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2015OctDec/0193.html> 
> 
> We believe that the consensus view is reflected in this response:
> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/122#issuecomment-158676010 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/122#issuecomment-158676010> 
> 
> If you have new concerns that haven’t been already addressed that should make the WG reconsider this decision, please respond to this call before Wednesday November 25 at 9am Boston time.
> 
> Thanks,
> AWK
> 
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
> Adobe 
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