- From: <josh@interaccess.ie>
- Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:15:35 +0000
- To: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com>, "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov>
- Cc: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <em145d917a-fe29-4fcb-8646-78ce70199f04@josh_machine>
Thanks Srinivasu and Allen: Mapping them to existing SC(s) as sufficient techniques or failures makes sense, but creating supplement SC(s) will not make them normative in legal frameworks [...] This is a big advantage to adhering to only minting new SCs as needed, in preference to some new mechanism(s). Thanks Josh ------ Original Message ------ From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com> To: "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov> Cc: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>; "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com>; "Joshue O Connor" <josh@interaccess.ie>; "WCAG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Sent: 02/11/2015 13:56:29 Subject: Re: Method for minting new Success Criteria >I completely agree. That would be rather easy to sensitize awareness to >community to use than new SCs > >I would also agree that it would be difficult to get law updated across >the world. >Thanks, >Srini > >Best regards, > >Srinivasu Chakravarthula >Sr. Accessibility Consultant, Deque >Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855 > >Deque University | Follow me on Twitter | Connect on LinkedIn | About >Me > >Technology is a gift to everyone; let's create inclusive digital >experience > >On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Hoffman, Allen ><allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov> wrote: >>Mapping them to existing SC(s) as sufficient techniques or failures >>makes sense, but creating supplement SC(s) will not make them >>normative in legal frameworks which connect to the guidelines at a >>point in time only, not this and forward. >> >> >> >> >> >>Allen Hoffman >> >>Deputy Executive Director >> >>The Office of Accessible Systems & Technology >> >>Department of Homeland Security >> >>202-447-0503 (voice) >> >>allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov >> >> >> >>DHS Accessibility Helpdesk >> >>202-447-0440 (voice) >> >>202-447-0582 (fax) >> >>202-447-5857 (TTY) >> >>accessibility@dhs.gov >> >> >> >>This communication, along with any attachments, is covered by federal >>and state law governing electronic communications and may contain >>sensitive and legally privileged information. If the reader of this >>message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that >>any dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message is >>strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, >>please reply immediately to the sender and delete this message. Thank >>you. >> >> >> >>From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] >>Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:38 PM >>To: Wayne Dick >>Cc: Joshue O Connor; WCAG >>Subject: Re: Method for minting new Success Criteria >> >> >> >>I think as much as possible we should try to map our findings into the >>existing WCAG which is required by law in many jurisdictions. It will >>be difficult to get jurisdictions to "update" their requirements, but >>addressing them in the existing WCAG will automatically pull them in. >>As long as we can map them to existing SCs >> >> >> >>Cheers, >> >>David MacDonald >> >> >> >>CanAdaptSolutions Inc. >> >>Tel: 613.235.4902 >> >>LinkedIn >> >>www.Can-Adapt.com >> >> >> >> Adapting the web to all users >> >> Including those with disabilities >> >> >> >>If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy >>policy >> >> >> >>On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>Hi, >>I think the answer to this question is yes. We are talking about >>needs that were missed in the first iteration 2.0. We want the new >>criteria to carry the same legitimacy of the original criteria. The >>WCAG 2.0 process was very credible and objectively good. In all human >>processes there are oversights, but serious critics don't fault WCAG >>WG on their process or even the outcomes. We just need to fill in >>missing criteria with the same care used in the original process. >> >>Wayne >> >> >> >>On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie> >>wrote: >> >>Hi all, >> >>The question has come up 'Do we need to follow the same form as WCAG >>with our extensions success criteria'? A possible method would be to >>map suggested COGA (and other groups) current new SCs (as techniques) >>to existing WCAG success criteria. And if we find that some don’t >>easily map to an existing SC, then that could represent a gap – and >>therefore the need for a new SC. >> >>Therefore one path which could help us to troubleshoot this whole >>thing would be to see all current or proposed SCs – as techniques, >>then work backwards from there. >> >>Another way, is to try to flip any suggested SC into a testable >>statement. If that can't be done, then its likely a technique that can >>fit an existing SC. >> >>Comments, brickbats welcome. >> >>Josh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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