- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:31:10 -0400
- To: "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Cc: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDbycfiqEnWurm3F=WjxKaFdUgWUKhB6wiwwJyxj8m=SuA@mail.gmail.com>
WCAG is testable a number of ways. One way is that most professionals looking at a component could agree whether or not it fails. If we could not be reasonably sure of that, we would not proceed with approving an SC. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> www.Can-Adapt.com * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote: > Hi Detlev > Your point is very important we are trying to make the coga extension > testable but we can not be help to a higher standard then the original > wcag 2.0. It does not seem we have a clear way of saying an SC is testable > beyond having some testable sufficient techniques even though we agree that > does not really make the SC testable. > > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > Athena ICT Accessibility Projects <http://accessibility.athena-ict.com> > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > ---- On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:15:37 +0200 *Detlev > Fischer<detlev.fischer@testkreis.de <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>>* wrote > ---- > > Am 28.10.2015 um 16:17 schrieb Gregg Vanderheiden < > gregg@raisingthefloor.org>: > > And having testable techniques does not make up for a non-testable SC. > You need to be able to determine if the SC is met - not if a technique use > for some content on the page passes. > > > The thing is that there is no single test to determine if a SC is met, nor > a finite set of tests (because techniques are not required, and new > techniques to account for may emerge at any time - so in my view, this > implies that conformance to a SC can never be established In a > deterministic, fully replicable way (because this would require a fully > operationalized, completely documented test procedure that can be exactly > followed by anyone). > > I hope this does not come across as trolling. I think it is important to > set realistic expectations regarding the outcome of a11y testing of complex > content, and to realize that a conformance check is often not completely > objective. It includes common sense judgments that take on board both > quality (attributing "not ideal" content instances to either "pass" or > "fail", and assessing the a11y impact of issues found) and quantity (number > of issues on a particular page). > > Sent from phone > > And having testable techniques does not make up for a non-testable SC. > You need to be able to determine if the SC is met - not if a technique use > for some content on the page passes. > > > >
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