Re: Absent or null alt on img within figure element

Thanks Laura for those pointers. Yes browser-AT support is generally lagging but it does seem to work fine with Firefox and JAWS.
The figure is exposed as a grouping element and the figcaption does correctly work as a label or legend for the figure element. 
The figcaption should not be regarded as the mechanism for providing text alt for an image within the figure or even when an image is its only  content.
This is the point of this thread or the question posed up top.
Thanks,
Sailesh


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On Wed, 7/22/15, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Absent or null alt on img within figure element
 To: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>, "Sailesh Panchang" <spanchang02@yahoo.com>
 Cc: "WCAG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "Steve Faulkner" <sfaulkner@paciellogroup.com>
 Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 8:11 AM
 
 Hi David, Sailesh, and
 all,
 
 Steve's June 15,
 2015 report [1] states the following regarding
 figcaption support.
 
 * IE: provides no semantic information via
 accessibility APIs.
 * Chrome, Firefox:
 exposes element as IA2 caption role and the element
 name as an IA2 object attribute.
 * Firefox: exposes the figcaption content as an
 accessible name for
 its parent figure.
 *Safari has a figcaption bug [2]
 
 Powermapper tests results:
 causes problems in 5 screen reader /
 browser
 combinations. [3]
 
 Best
 Regards,
 Laura
 
 [1] http://html5accessibility.com/
 [2] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108996
 [3] http://www.powermapper.com/tests/screen-readers/labelling/img-figcaption.html
 
 On 7/21/15, David MacDonald
 <david100@sympatico.ca>
 wrote:
 > I think it comes down to
 accessibility support. Last time I checked the
 > figcaption didn't work with any screen
 reader.
 >
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 > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015
 at 4:33 PM, Sailesh Panchang <spanchang02@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:
 >
 >> Greetings,
 >> Is
 it  okay to omit the alt on an img element inside a figure
 element and
 >> rely on the figcaption
 to provide the text alternative?
 >>
 >> As a screen reader user, I am not in
 favor of doing away with the alt or
 >>
 even setting a null alt on the img because I do not realize
 that there is
 >> an actual image
 present; nor can I use image-navigation to quickly move
 >> to
 >> the image.
 Nor can I copy / save the image locally if I wished to.
 >> The examples within HTML5 specs do use
 an a non-empty alt for images
 >>
 within a figure which is perfectly fine by me.
 >> I am in favor of flagging a violation
 if alt is absent or is null on an
 >>
 img within a figure.
 >> Thoughts?
 >> Thanks very much,
 >> Sailesh Panchang
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >
 
 
 -- 
 Laura L. Carlson

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