- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:41:11 -0400
- To: "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov>
- CC: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>, Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@gmail.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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I'm proposing the wording of the failure as follows: "Failure of 1.3.1 due to information in PDF headers and footers, marked as artifacts, not being programmatically determinable in another way." The issue in Github is here: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/99 Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> www.Can-Adapt.com * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Hoffman, Allen <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov> wrote: > Concur. > > > > > > *Allen Hoffman* > > Deputy Executive Director > > The Office of Accessible Systems & Technology > > Department of Homeland Security > > 202-447-0503 (voice) > > allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov > > > > DHS Accessibility Helpdesk > > 202-447-0440 (voice) > > 202-447-0582 (fax) > > 202-447-5857 (TTY) > > accessibility@dhs.gov > > > > *This communication, along with any attachments, is covered by federal and > state law governing electronic communications and may contain sensitive and > legally privileged information. 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Thank you.* > > > > *From:* Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 8:41 PM > *To:* David MacDonald; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Katie Haritos-Shea; Kerstin > Probiesch > *Cc:* WCAG > *Subject:* RE: Should PDF documents have headers and footers on every > page? > > > > David, this approach sounds good to me. > > > > Jonathan > > > > -- > Jonathan Avila > Chief Accessibility Officer > SSB BART Group > jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com > > > > 703-637-8957 (o) > Follow us: Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/#%21/ssbbartgroup> | Twitter > <http://twitter.com/#%21/SSBBARTGroup> | LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah> | Blog > <http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog> | Newsletter <http://eepurl.com/O5DP> > > > > *From:* David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:36 AM > *To:* Jonathan Avila; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Katie Haritos-Shea; Kerstin > Probiesch > *Cc:* WCAG > *Subject:* Re: Should PDF documents have headers and footers on every > page? > > > > PS > > To be clear, Kerstin's proposed failure has the following qualities: > > * It does not require footers to be marked up as artifacts, only that the > information be available or programmatically determinable at least once in > the document. > > * It allows for Jonathan's recommendations regarding exposing page numbers > and other changing information > > * It allows for my preference of exposing header and footer information in > the main body as section headings, synced page numbers etc.. > > * It allows for Allen's preference to have footer's inline > > * It does not infringe on Gregg's WCAG2ICT concern about full PDF > documents mapping to a web page > > * It is oriented towards the the PDF/UA's requirement of marking them up > as artifact's but is not limited by it, for things such as Jonathan's > exceptions above > > For pastoral direction on the best way to provide headers and footers. > Technique PDF 14 can be amended to address all of our concerns because it > is a technique and not a failure. It can provide the best practice, and > provide example edge cases. > > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > *CanAdapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:44 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > >>To clarify. I have been told by PDF/UA experts that to artifact a link > even in a footer would be a violation of PDF/UA. > > > > 7.18.5 requires links be marked up as a link element. Section 7.8 requires > all headers and footers be marked up as artifacts. So it appears PDF/UA > does not allow links in headers and footers. > > > >>Also an artifacted link would be an issue for a screen reader user as it > would produce a dead tab stop > > > True > > I would like to try to gain consensus among us. I like Kirsten's failure > proposal and I think it is consistent with WCAG and is reasonably > compatible with PDF/UA. > > Thoughts? > > > > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > *CanAdapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Jonathan Avila < > jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> wrote: > > > I put a link in a MS Word footer, and exported it. It appears to be > marked as an artifact, even though it can receive tab focus. > > To clarify. I have been told by PDF/UA experts that to artifact a link > even in a footer would be a violation of PDF/UA. Also an artifacted link > would be an issue for a screen reader user as it would produce a dead tab > stop > > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:28 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > > > I put a link in a MS Word footer, and exported it. It appears to be > marked as an artifact, even though it can receive tab focus. > > > > >
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