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Re: Should PDF documents have headers and footers on every page?

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:41:11 -0400
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To: "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov>
CC: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>, Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@gmail.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I'm proposing the wording of the failure as follows:

"Failure of 1.3.1 due to information in PDF headers and footers, marked as
artifacts, not being programmatically determinable in another way."

The issue in Github is here: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/99

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Hoffman, Allen <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov>
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>  Concur.
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> *From:* Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 8:41 PM
> *To:* David MacDonald; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Katie Haritos-Shea; Kerstin
> Probiesch
> *Cc:* WCAG
> *Subject:* RE: Should PDF documents have headers and footers on every
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> David, this approach sounds good to me.
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> *From:* David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:36 AM
> *To:* Jonathan Avila; Andrew Kirkpatrick; Katie Haritos-Shea; Kerstin
> Probiesch
> *Cc:* WCAG
> *Subject:* Re: Should PDF documents have headers and footers on every
> page?
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> PS
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> To be clear, Kerstin's proposed failure has the following qualities:
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> * It does not require footers to be marked up as artifacts, only that the
> information be available or programmatically determinable at least once in
> the document.
>
> * It allows for Jonathan's recommendations regarding exposing page numbers
> and other changing information
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> * It allows for my preference of exposing header and footer information in
> the main body as section headings, synced page numbers etc..
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> * It allows for Allen's preference to have footer's inline
>
> * It does not infringe on Gregg's WCAG2ICT concern about full PDF
> documents mapping to a web page
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> * It is oriented towards the the PDF/UA's requirement of marking them up
> as artifact's but is not limited by it, for things such as Jonathan's
> exceptions above
>
> For pastoral direction on the best way to provide headers and footers.
> Technique PDF 14 can be amended to address all of our concerns because it
> is a technique and not a failure. It can provide the best practice, and
> provide example edge cases.
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>   Cheers,
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> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:44 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
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> >>To clarify. I have been told by PDF/UA experts that to artifact a link
> even in a footer would be a violation of PDF/UA.
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> 7.18.5 requires links be marked up as a link element. Section 7.8 requires
> all headers and footers be marked up as artifacts. So it appears PDF/UA
> does not allow links in headers and footers.
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>
> >>Also an artifacted link would be an issue for a screen reader user as it
> would produce a dead tab stop
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>
> True
>
> I would like to try to gain consensus among us. I like Kirsten's failure
> proposal and I think it is consistent with WCAG and is reasonably
> compatible with PDF/UA.
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> Thoughts?
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> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Jonathan Avila <
> jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > I put a link in a MS Word footer, and exported it. It appears to be
> marked as an artifact, even though it can receive tab focus.
>
> To clarify. I have been told by PDF/UA experts that to artifact a link
> even in a footer would be a violation of PDF/UA.    Also an artifacted link
> would be an issue for a screen reader user as it would produce a dead tab
> stop
>
> Jon
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:28 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > I put a link in a MS Word footer, and exported it. It appears to be
> marked as an artifact, even though it can receive tab focus.
>
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