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Re: Recommendation to move WCAG Techniques out of TR, concerned about Failure Techniques loosing authority

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:00:00 +0100
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vm3G3VWSLj=XW9u=QRB=4DQ-htyDe36pd=6f_gnR72bmg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, GLWAI Guidelines WG org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
is there a plan to make the technques source HTML rather than XML? Would
make it easier to contribute ;-)

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

On 20 May 2015 at 13:50, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:

> And one of the more mechanical reason is that the collection of techniques
> documents is huge.  Over 500 pages, and there is no need to replicate every
> one of those pages when only a few are changed.  This actually creates more
> problems now in that people regularly land on the incorrect version of a
> technique because of search engines finding an older version, and then they
> follow links to other older versions of related information within the
> collection.
>
> There would be a transition time but in not too long people and search
> engines would find the individual techniques in the same predictable
> location.  We would still have the same issue with the top pages of the
> techniques that would be in TR space, but if that happened then people
> would get back on track as soon as they followed a link to an individual
> technique.
>
> AWK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshue O Connor [mailto:joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:22 AM
> To: Gregg Vanderheiden
> Cc: David MacDonald; GLWAI Guidelines WG org
> Subject: Re: Recommendation to move WCAG Techniques out of TR, concerned
> about Failure Techniques loosing authority
>
> Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> > Techniques are Notes - so they can be amended at any time.  [...]
>
> In practice having them in TR space has often meant overhead/delays etc.
>
> > Can you  explain the logic of moving them more?
>
> It's really about moving to a lighter adaptive model where techs can be
> updated and kept fresh - so currently this is our thinking on the best way
> to do this.
>
> Josh
>
> > gregg
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > Gregg Vanderheiden
> > gregg@raisingthefloor.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 19, 2015, at 1:17 PM, David MacDonald<david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a discussion in today's meeting about possibly amending
> technique authoring process to possibly move the Techniques  out of TR
> space going forward to speed up the cycle.
> >>
> >> This is in the new Charter proposal.
> >> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/draft-wcag-charter<http://www.w3.org/2015/0
> >> 4/draft-wcag-charter>
> >>
> >> Section 2 Deliverables
> >>
> >> "Understanding WCAG 2.0<http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/>,
> to be published as a W3C Working Group Note or as a curated resource of the
> Working Group. Understanding WCAG 2.0 explains the intent of each Success
> Criterion and links to known sufficient techniques, both general and
> technology-specific;"
> >>
> >> The proposal in the charter allows the group to go either way, so the
> discussion is not a show stopper for the Charter.
> >>
> >> However, there is a discussion that the weight and authority of
> failures might be affected by this, and there may be legal implications in
> environments that look to the common failures as evidence in court.
> >>
> >> I would be interested in a fairly wide discussion of this, which
> includes prior WCAG member and affected jurisdictions... I think there are
> court cases all over the world that cite a WCAG failure technique
> violations as an authoritative indication that a web site (page) doesn't
> meet WCAG requirements.
> >>
> >> Similarly, there may be some circumstances of web masters are defending
> their claims that they met WCAG by citing a WCAG technique.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> David MacDonald
> >>
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