- From: Aurélien Levy <aurelien.levy@temesis.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 10:26:09 +0200
- To: WCAG WG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <53C788A1.2090800@temesis.com>
Le 17/07/2014 09:26, Ramón Corominas a écrit : > This is an interesting point. Since "accessibility supported" is > defined as "compatible with AT that users use", I think that SC 1.4.4 > should take into account the reality that most low vision users who > rely on browser's zoom don't use the "full zoom" option, but text-only > increase. > > Of course we can argue that they could simply switch to use full zoom, > but this seems to be more a weak justification of a bad practice than > a real solution to the problem. The technology completely allows us to > achieve a good result with almost no effort and without forcing the > user to use a particular setting that creates a very bad usability. > > In any case, normally the use of absolute units is only problematic in > -some- containers and certain positioning properties, but not for the > text size. > > Regards, > Ramón. > Even without using the zoom sufficient technique or another one listed as so, it's still not a failure in regard of the current failures we got except for text based form controls (F80). The F69 can't apply because it's about having content clipped, truncated or obscured when text is resized at 200% and in our case in browser not increasing pixel based font size we haven't that kinds of problems. Furthermore as far a I know browser isn't considered as an AT and the SC text say "without assistive technology" so basically any user of AT is outside of the scope for this SC. The only thing left is the intent of the SC http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/visual-audio-contrast-scale.html that say : "The scaling of content is primarily a user agent responsibility. User agents that satisfy UAAG 1.0 Checkpoint 4.1 <http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-USERAGENT/guidelines.html#tech-configure-text-scale> allow users to configure text scale. The author's responsibility is to create Web content that does not prevent the user agent from scaling the content effectively. Authors may satisfy this Success Criterion by verifying that content does not interfere with user agent support for resizing text, including text-based controls, or by providing direct support for resizing text or changing the layout. " and "If the author is using a technology whose user agents do not provide zoom support, the author is responsible to provide this type of functionality directly or to provide content that works with the type of functionality provided by the user agent. If the user agent doesn't provide zoom functionality but does let the the user change the text size, the author is responsible for ensuring that the content remains usable when the text is resized." So, the real question I think WCAG must give an answer on is : Is it a failure or not to use pixel font size in an environment where : - user may have a browser that doesn't scale it and don't provide a zoom feature (IE6 for example + I'm not sure every mobile browser out there do it ) - no others sufficient technique is used Regards, -- Aurélien Levy ---- Temesis -- Aurélien Levy ---- Temesis
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