Re: Does placeholder text pass 3.3.2, does disappearing text pass?

Even if placeholder text did map to the accessibility API and using
placeholder text was fixed for non-sighted users using screen readers, the
fact the placeholder text disappears when data is inputted in the field
still creates a problem for some users with cognitive disabilities (say
short term memory loos), because there's no way to double check what those
labels were, short of removing the text from the form controls.

/Denis

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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:54 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Recently on Twitter there has been lot's of discussion regarding
> placeholder text as a label. Some say that since the label disappears on
> input that the author is "hiding" the label, and it is a failure of SC
> 3.3.2.
>
> H65 seems to indicate that there may be situations where it is ok not to
> have a visible label.
>
> "The objective of this technique is to use the title attribute to label
> form controls when the visual design cannot accommodate the label (for
> example, if there is no text on the screen that can be identified as a
> label) or where it might be confusing to display a label. User agents,
> including assistive technology, can speak the title attribute."
>
> Mobile designers are sometimes quite adamant about the saved screen real
> estate, but it is clearly worse for cognitive folks, and some low vision,
> and is strongly criticized in usability circles. Let's assume the
> placeholder text reports to the API. Do we need a failure, or should it
> pass? Do we need to revise H65?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David MacDonald
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