- From: Adam Solomon <adam.solomon2@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:13:21 +0300
- To: rcorominas@technosite.es
- Cc: GLWAI Guidelines WG org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CALKv3=gB-HTZ1hqjreuWJ7foEe1D0=++R=jxkHrZE2VD+ceBCQ@mail.gmail.com>
If I understand you correctly, the programmatic determination (role, alt, etc.) would satisfy 1.4.1. I am not sure of that. Since 1.4.1 is intended among others for visually impaired users, then appropriate markup might not be sufficient. Perhaps a visual cue is needed to augment the use of color, as implied by the techniques for 1.4.1 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Ramón Corominas <rcorominas@technosite.es>wrote: > Adam wrote: > > So then images of text would fail in A which I believe >> > > to be reasonable. > > I assume that you refer to "images of text with poor contrast". I agree > that they would fail 1.4.1 since, for low vision users, the embedded text > is conveying the information relying on color alone. Even if the text is > provided in an alt text, for example, many low vision users don't rely on > screen readers and therefore might miss the information completely. > > Indeed, I see the technique regarding the "distinguisable links" as a > logical interpretation of SC 1.4.1 that implicitly recognises the > importance of contrast. Being a "sufficient technique" for SC 1.4.1, it > seems to suggest that the contrary would be a failure, although no failure > exists to indicate that. Moreover, the technique does not really refer to > color, but contrast ratio between links and the surrounding text, which > makes me think that it should apply to 1.4.3 and not 1.4.1. In fact, the > role information is there, so color is obviously not the only way to convey > the presence of the link. That said, I think that the technique is properly > attached to 1.4.1, because it correctly assumes that not providing contrast > is equivalent to relying on colour. > > I can even imagine a weird situation where the level A is theoretically > met, although in practice there is a severe barrier for many users. > > Imagine the following image of text that acts as a heading for a link > "more info": > > - Text: "Special offer! WiFi router for only $5.99" > > - Color: light gray (#CCCCCC) over white > > - Fails 1.4.3 AA (contrast ratio = 1.6:1) and 1.4.5 AA (image of text), > maybe fails 1.4.4 also, although it does not refer to "images of text". In > any case, it is also AA. > > - "Pass" 1.3.1, 1.4.1 and 4.1.2 due to the programmatically determinable > text included in the @alt, apparently no more "A" criteria involved) > > Below this image of text we have a link "more info" in normal text, with a > gray Color (#717171) over the overall white background. > > - Pass 1.4.1 (the information of the link itself "more info" does not rely > on color, but anyway the contrast ratio with the "surrounding" text is > 3.0:1) > > - Pass 2.4.4 (level A), since the "context" is provided with the image of > text (@alt for blind users and the image itself for sighted users, since it > passes "A") > > Thus, we have an image of text that is virtually invisible for anyone that > has not a more-than-perfect vision (but passes A), and a link that is > perfectly visible and passes level-A because the context is there. > > The described situation is more or less common, maybe the low contrast is > not as critical, but I've seen many "iamge headings" with contrast ratios > of 2.0:1 or similar, which are almost invisible for me. > > Therefore, I think that a technique similar to the "distinguisable links" > should be created for images of text that have not enough contrast, and > even a pair of failures of SC 1.4.1 due to "relying on color with an > insufficient contrast ratio to convey information", or something like that. > > Kind regards, > Ramón. > > >
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