[html-techs-tf] Minutes for Aug 22, 2013 - HTML5 & ARIA Techniques TF

Minutes from today's meeting can be found at
http://www.w3.org/2013/08/22-html-techs-tf-minutes.html

ARIA-edit: F85: Failure of Success Criterion 2.4.3 due to using dialogs or
menus that are not adjacent to their trigger control in the sequential
navigation order

loretta has added detlev's suggested additional text to explain why dialogs
inserted at the end of the page can be problematic

detlev suggests making the syntax gender neutral - loretta will make the
change

detlev: re jon's comment of having a good example (non failure) - might be
confusing - loretta: we basically have adopted this convention of not
having a success example in a failure

loretta: leave this technique open because of edits we just made

detlev: we should really have a technique for properly scripting dialog
with correct focus behavior

loretta: add to the wiki page this suggested technique - need a good title

<pauljadam> http://pauljadam.com/moderna11y/#dialogs

<Detlev> http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/role-dialog-3.html

resolution: leave F85 open

<Loretta> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130815ttf/results#xlabel
Using ARIA Live Regions or role=alert to Identify Errors

resolution: paul will check out comments from survey and make edits for
next meeting
ARIA-edit: F86: Failure of Success Criterion 4.1.2 due to not providing
names for each part of a multi-part form field, such as a US telephone
number

loretta: will edit per detlev's comment re aria-label and id

is describedby sufficient here?

if describedby has support - it doesnt fail

detlev - we could add generic reference to aria instead of detailing which
properties satisfy

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/failures.html#F86

loretta: we could leave off alternative procedure for html,xhtml
... perhaps we could mention that each form field needs a name w/o
specifying what the name needs to be
... i will take another stab at this based upon our comments here