- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:10:57 -0400
- To: <ryladog@earthlink.net>, "'Loretta Guarino Reid'" <lorettaguarino@google.com>, "'Michael Cooper'" <cooper@w3.org>, "'Gregg Vanderheiden'" <ez1testing@gmail.com>
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Thanks Katie Can you remember where the vestiges of it ended up in the WCAG documents....if at all? I'm just looking to see if we require a high correlation among experts... or simply high level of confidence...perhaps they are not necessarily the same thing. Cheers David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities <http://www.can-adapt.com/> www.Can-Adapt.com From: Katie Haritos-Shea EARTHLINK [mailto:ryladog@earthlink.net] Sent: April-02-13 11:11 AM To: 'David MacDonald'; 'Loretta Guarino Reid'; 'Michael Cooper'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden' Cc: 'WCAG WG'; 'Eval TF' Subject: RE: testing with a "High degree of confidence" David, I remember these discussions back when - I recall Gregg providing the 8 out of 10 - and - I brought his up for WCAG Evaluation Methodology working group - for their puposes they wanted an algorithmic reference - not human judgment. Am not sure they found one. Katie From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 3:50 PM To: Loretta Guarino Reid; Michael Cooper; Gregg Vanderheiden Cc: WCAG WG; Eval TF Subject: testing with a "High degree of confidence" I remember early drafts of WCAG, when discussing human testing we said it was dependable human testing if "8 of 10 testers would come to the same conclusions... " or something like that...we later changed it to something like "most testers would come to the same conclusions" because we thought the 8 out of 10 rule was a bit prescriptive. I've been looking for that in the WCAG 2, or the Understanding conformance, Understanding WCAG etc... and didn't find it. The closest I could find was this, but it seems to be more related to automatic testing... Does anyone remember the history of that line about "most experts woukd agree..." and where it is now? "The Success Criteria can be tested by a combination of machine and human evaluation as long as it is possible to determine whether a Success Criterion has been satisfied with a high level of confidence." http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-accessibility- support-head Cheers David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3267 / Virus Database: 3161/6218 - Release Date: 04/01/13
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