- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:14:21 +0200
- To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Cc: Cherie Ekholm <cheriee@exchange.microsoft.com>, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-id: <01591D40-2D3C-454D-A9CA-4CAF42F29462@trace.wisc.edu>
and what results do you get for the three sentences. Gregg -------------------------------------------------------- Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. Director Trace R&D Center Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project http://Raisingthefloor.org --- http://GPII.net On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Jim Allan wrote: > how about http://www.read-able.com > > The Readability Test Tool takes the text on your web page and gives a > score for the most used readability indicators. > > Flesch Kincaid Reading Ease > Flesch Kincaid Grade Level > Gunning Fog Score > Coleman Liau Index > Automated Readability Index (ARI) > > or > http://www.readabilityformulas.com/free-readability-formula-tests.php > (group rating) > it rates on 7 different scales with additional tools for checking > grade levels using the Fry Graph, Raygor Estimate Graph, Spache > Formula, and New Dale-Chall Formula, > http://www.readabilityformulas.com/search/pages/Free_Readability_Calculators/ > (individual tools) > > > Jim Allan (channeling John Slatin - who would have better and more > accurate information on readability) > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Cherie Ekholm > <cheriee@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote: >> And it’s widely used in US government and education. >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Flesch >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_test >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Chérie Ekholm >> >> Senior Standards Professional >> >> Microsoft Office Standards & Interoperability >> >> Phone: 425-706-1425 >> >> Fax: 425-936-7329 >> >> Redmond, WA >> >> >> >> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:38 PM >> To: Cherie Ekholm >> Cc: Loretta Guarino Reid; WCAG >> >> >> Subject: Re: Search by Reading Level >> >> >> >> This measure is arbitrary and yields dubious results for meaningful sentence >> with proper nouns in them. >> >> >> >> for example >> >> This sentence is uninterpretable (passes little useful information) but is >> easy reading. >> >> >> >> He went to it and to see her. >> Flesch reading ease 100.0 >> >> >> while this one is >> >> Jimmy went to the hospital to see Madeline. >> Flesch reading ease 61.2 >> Reading level 6.7 >> Has a higher reading level - yet is the easiest form. >> >> >> this one has lower reading grade level but is hard to read and parse. >> >> Your brother went to the place where they take sick kids to see the girl you >> saw last night. >> Flesch reading ease 100.0 >> Reading level 3.6 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gregg >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. >> Director Trace R&D Center >> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering >> and Biomedical Engineering >> University of Wisconsin-Madison >> >> >> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International >> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project >> http://Raisingthefloor.org --- http://GPII.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Cherie Ekholm wrote: >> >> >> >> If you are looking at reading level as determined by something like the >> Flesch-Kincaid grade level or Flesch reading ease (or similar), the formulae >> are available online. These are aggregate scores that take into account >> sentence length and syllables per word. One reference is the MS topic for >> Word at: >> >> >> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/test-your-document-s-readability-HP010354286.aspx?CTT=1 >> >> >> >> Chérie Ekholm >> >> Senior Standards Professional >> >> Microsoft Office Standards & Interoperability >> >> Phone: 425-706-1425 >> >> Fax: 425-936-7329 >> >> Redmond, WA >> >> >> >> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:49 PM >> To: Loretta Guarino Reid >> Cc: WCAG >> Subject: Re: Search by Reading Level >> >> >> >> would be nice to know how the reading levels are determined. >> >> >> >> anyone know? >> >> >> >> Gregg >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. >> Director Trace R&D Center >> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering >> and Biomedical Engineering >> University of Wisconsin-Madison >> >> >> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International >> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project >> http://Raisingthefloor.org --- http://GPII.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Loretta Guarino Reid wrote: >> >> >> >> >> We are often asked how to determine the reading level of text for meeting SC >> 3.1.5. The features described in this blog post will be helpful for people >> looking for content at a suitable reading level. I wonder if there is a way >> they can help authors, too? >> >> >> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/learning-independence-with-google.html >> >> > > > > -- > Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster > Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired > 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 > voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ > "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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