RE: Minutes WCAG 17 February 2011

I also attended part of the meeting (according to IRC log)
Thanks and best wishes
Tim Boland NIST

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Subject: Minutes WCAG 17 February 2011

Minutes of the 17 February 2011 WCAG meeting are posted to http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
17 Feb 2011

Agenda<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JanMar/0028.html>

See also: IRC log<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-irc>

Attendees

Present
+1.727.391.aaaa, James_Nurthen, Michael_Cooper, Marc_Johlic, Bruce_Bailey, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Adam_Solomon, David_MacDonald
Regrets
Chair
Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
David
Contents

 *   Topics<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
    *   is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the standard is settled... not for discussion today but to think about<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
    *   Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
    *   Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
    *   Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly impossible to meet in most cases<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04>
    *   Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc should be conditional on its application<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05>
    *   was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06>
    *   Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for any group of logically related input elements<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07>
    *   Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08>
    *   Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful, should encompass %, em, font size names<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09>
    *   Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC 1.4.4<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item10>
    *   <scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item11>
    *   Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item12>
    *   Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item13>
 *   Summary of Action Items<http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 17 February 2011

is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the standard is settled... not for discussion today but to think about

James recommended that we publish them with a note something like "these techniques are based on the current status of the standard and may change..."

<Loretta> Note: IT IS PREFERABLE FOR LINKS TO BE VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES, SINCE USERS NAVIGATING VIA THE KEYBOARD INCLUDE switch users, those using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly, screen magnification software users, screen reader users working with sighted colleagues, keyboard only users and those navigating using voice recognition software. HOWEVER, SUCCESS CRITERION 2.4.1 DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT THEY BE VISIBLE WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE FOCUS, AND LINKS

http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-focus-visible.html

Resolution: accept as proposed Issue LC-2456: Reword G1 'Description' and 'Note'. (This will make "Skip to Main" as a permanent visible link)

Resolution accept as proposed: Issue LC-2469: SCR19 applies to SC 3.2.2 too

Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit

Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?

Resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours? (changed from 24 hours to 10x the default change of context time.
... WCAG group accept with suggestions EOWG is proposing an update to WCAG 2 at a Glance.

Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly impossible to meet in most cases

<MichaelC> http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Post_WCAG_2#Techniques

resolution: Accept as proposed:Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly impossible to meet in most cases

Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc should be conditional on its application

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc should be conditional on its application

was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented

<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to draft a section about testing techniques for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-125 - Draft a section about testing techniques for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [on Michael Cooper - due 2011-02-24].

ccept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented

reolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2447: Test whether all th Elements have scope attribute misleading

Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for any group of logically related input elements

<scribe> ACTION: Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - Reword H71 for comment LC2448 [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2011-02-24].

<MichaelC> action-126: see comments in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110127misc/results#x2448

<trackbot> ACTION-126 Reword H71 for comment LC2448 notes added

Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place
Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful, should encompass %, em, font size names

Resolution: accepted as amended Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful, should encompass %, em, font size names

Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC 1.4.4

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC 1.4.4

Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)

<scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)

Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing

<scribe> ACTION: on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on

<scribe> ACTION: Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment, and get back to the working group.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment, and get back to the working group.. [on Adam Solomon - due 2011-02-24].

Resolution: leave open 2437 pending adam's research
... accept as amended Issue LC-2459: Table heading in H63

Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5

<MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment, and get back to the working group.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to draft a section about testing techniques for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

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