- From: Scott Hollier <Scott.Hollier@mediaaccess.org.au>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:24:07 +1000
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The proposed technique is looking good and will make a big difference in addressing the practical concerns that we're often asked about. Thank you all, Scott. Dr Scott Hollier Project Manager & Western Australia Manager Media Access Australia - Inclusion Through Technology WA: 61 Kitchener Avenue, Victoria Park WA 6100 Main: Suite 4.08, 22-36 Mountain Street, Ultimo NSW 2007 Tel: +61 8 9311 8230 (WA) +61 2 9212 6242 (Main) www.mediaaccess.org.au<http://www.mediaaccess.org.au/> Our new campaign, cap that! - captioned for learning<http://www.capthat.com.au/> is asking teachers Australia-wide to turn on captions for learning and literacy. Follow Media Access Australia (@mediaaccessaus) on Twitter<http://twitter.com/mediaaccessaus> and like us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/mediaaccessaustralia>. From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 10:43 PM To: David MacDonald Cc: 'Bailey, Bruce'; Scott Hollier; 'WCAG' Subject: Re: Audio Descriptions for Talking Heads Good I would include a note however that says this does NOT apply to a situation where there are multiple speakers and the speakers are identified on screen with visual text as they speak. Gregg -------------------------------------------------------- Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. Director Trace R&D Center Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project http://Raisingthefloor.org --- http://GPII.net On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, David MacDonald wrote: Sounds like a good sufficient technique suggestion, How about a general technique which I'll submit... something like this: Gxx: Using a static text alternative to describe a "talking head" video. Description: The purpose of this technique is to provide an alternative to synchronized media that has no time based important information contained in the video portion of the media. Such is the case in a "talking head" video where a person is talking in front of an unchanging background, such as a press conference, company or Government announcement, etc... In this case there are no "important visual details" which require Audio Description. A static text alternative giving a general description of the context of the environment and any opening/closing credits, and perhaps text at the bottom of the video with the name of the speaker, that is not be heard in the audio, but seen on the screen. Audio Descriptions are not necessary when there is one person speaking against a static background, because there is no timed based visual information in the video that is "important" to the understanding of the content. The environment is static and therefore can be described in a non multimedia static format such as alternative text that is programmatically associated with the video. Example 1 A video of a CEO speaking to shareholders from his office has a title page opening the video giving the date, and when the speaker begins, there is a strip of text at the bottom of the video saying "John Doe, President of XYZ Cooperation". There is a paragraph below the video which is associated with the video file using aria-describedby which says: "July 22, 2011, John Doe, President of XYZ cooperation, speaking from his office" -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bailey, Bruce Sent: June-24-11 9:41 AM To: David MacDonald Cc: Scott Hollier; WCAG Subject: RE: Audio Descriptions for Talking Heads So you are requiring Audio Description of a talking head... the opening/closing credits, and the name and title of the person speaking? First, just to be pedantic, I would recommend fastidiously avoiding capitalizing the term "audio description" unless you are purposely referring to DVDs and broadcast television where the descriptive narration is on a secondary audio track. Second, the "you are requiring" phrasing of your question also makes me anxious as the Access Board does not enforce 508. Now that I have my disclaimers out of the way, let me respond substantively! Typically, a person sends me a URL and asks if I think the video conforms to 508. For talking head videos, often the only thing missing is narration at the beginning and end. Why can't those be put in static text alternatives, given that they are not time based (unless the speaker changes)? ... but I think a static alternative should be sufficient, no? Yes, some agencies will choose to remediate existing content by adding content to "a static alternative" (as you call it), usually a paragraph which is already associated with the video. I think one could make a very credible case that this practice conforms to WCAG 2.0. If so, we probably need a Sufficient Technique to this effect. The problem is not the *amount* of AD required, if even one word is required it's almost as hard as if there is a lot of it. Understood. Most often my advice is in the context of advising government 508 coordinators what they should be telling their media folks. The media folks have no idea how to add Audio Descriptions (big AD) but adding a voice over for the opening title they easily understand. it is getting into a studio (or buying an expensive software package that's the big investment)... even if it's just to announce a title... it might be easier in the future As is often the case, accessibility can be trivial when considered early in the process, but difficult and expensive after the fact! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3728 - Release Date: 06/26/11
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