Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media

True, one media type in the set leaves nothing else to coordinate with. 
Of course it depends a bit on what was mean by synchronized. You could 
just have audio with timeline based controls to keep the playback in 
sync with the time selected. Is a single media set a case we should be 
concerned with?

CB

David MacDonald wrote:
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> Except  for our purposes it could not be "one or more media types" it 
> would have to be "more than one media types..."  And we need the other 
> qualifiers that were in the new version.
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> Synchronized Media
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> A set of media types, required for understanding or use of the 
> complete presentation, coordinated to a common timeline.
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> *Note:* The set of media types does not include equivalents such as 
> captions, subtitles, or video description.
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> I actually quite like that. It seems elegant to me.
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> *From:* w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Chris Blouch
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:21 PM
> *To:* David MacDonald
> *Cc:* 'Andrew Kirkpatrick'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
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> Are audio and video the only types? What if I have just a slide show? 
> What about some data visualization widgets? In other words, with only 
> slight changes could the section be generalized to cover future cases?
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> Synchronized Media
> A set of one or more media types which are synchronized to a common 
> timeline such that interaction is coordinated between the members.
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> Or is the scope of work purposely specific to just cover audio/video?
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> CB
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> David MacDonald wrote:
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> Andrew, I agree that we need the equivalents that you mention. The 
> problem I have is with the wording of the sentence not with what we 
> are trying to say. It seems like we are saying
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> Audio with time-based interactive OR
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> Video with time-based interactive
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> It needs to be clear that it also means:
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> Video with Audio
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> Perhaps we are saying that time based interactive includes audio or 
> video but I don't think this is clear. Perhaps something like this.
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> *Synchronized Media *
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> Audio with corresponding video displayed at the same time. 2) Audio or 
> video displayed at the same time as other time-based content and/or 
> with time-based interactive component that is required for 
> understanding or use of the complete presentation.
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> *Note:* The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is 
> synchronized with to meet this definition does not include equivalents 
> such as captions, subtitles, or video description.
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> *From:* w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org> 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Kirkpatrick
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:08 AM
> *To:* David MacDonald; Gregg Vanderheiden; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org 
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> *Subject:* RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
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> I disagree with that assessment.  Synchronized media  can be lots of 
> things.  audio slide shows, audio with interactivity are also very 
> common.  I don't think that it is misleading - it is important since 
> these are the key items that require the equivalents that aren't 
> required elsewhere.
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>     [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *David MacDonald
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:19 AM
>     *To:* 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
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>     *Subject:* RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
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>     The only thing that bothers me about it is the opening.
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>     "Audio or video..."  Most synchronized media (multimedia), I'd say
>     95%,  is Audio synchronized WITH video. So placing the two of them
>     at the front of the sentence with an OR separating them is kind of
>     misleading I'd say.
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>     David MacDonald
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>     [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Gregg Vanderheiden
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:44 AM
>     *To:* w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>     *Subject:* : multimedia - Synchronized Media
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>     *NEW PROPOSED DEFINITION *
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>     *Synchronized Media *
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>     Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based
>     content and/or with time-based interactive component that is
>     required for understanding or use of the complete presentation.
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>     *Note:* The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is
>     synchronized with to meet this definition does not include
>     equivalents such as captions, subtitles, or video description.
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>     *Definition from WCAG *
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>     *synchronized media*
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>     audio or video synchronized with another format for presenting
>     information and/or with time-based interactive components
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