- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:22:20 -0600
- To: "'Robinson, Norman B - Washington, DC'" <Norman.B.Robinson@usps.gov>, "'Judy Brewer'" <jbrewer@w3.org>, "'Bailey, Bruce'" <Bruce.Bailey@ed.gov>
- Cc: "'WCAG WG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Thanks Norman, Good post. Just FYI - There is no plan to go to final recommendation with any unresolved issues. In fact the process does not allow it. Last call is not the end. There is last call. Then there is candidate recommendation. Only then do we get to proposed recommendation. And finally recommendation. But if people want to suggest major change - this is the time to do it. And it is also the time to sit back as you suggest, and look at the whole thing. Thanks Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Robinson, Norman B - Washington, DC Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:02 AM To: Judy Brewer; Bailey, Bruce Cc: WCAG WG Subject: RE: Schedule for getting to Last Call To all; I understand there are schedules created and they help drive work to a solution. I understand it has been many years in the making and many people are anxious to have something tangible. If this standard is going to impact Section 508 in a significant way, and I believe it is, then I hope you will understand if I continue to be critical of the work. The agency can continue to require all development staff and all contracts use the standard on version 1.0 as appropriate to the Section 508 mandate. I don't wish to undermine the excellent work done so far; I'm participating technically where possible. We don't have the finished product and I'm evaluating a work in progress. I'm not a W3C member. Speaking as Section 508 Coordinator for a large agency, we are materially affected. Please consider that if you release a new version and it has any significant issues left unresolved, it will have to be my position to ensure the standard is _not_ to be applied. Although Bruce and others have been focusing on many of the technical details, I think it would be most useful if the people involved step back and look at this from the eyes of a new user. Avoid the technical details and focus on the goals. Be critical and figure out how things fail, try to break them. An example of one issue that needs to be resolved is the levels; what do they mean? They are confusing! Another would be the language itself; someone needs to simplify it. Sometimes it seems as if every word is being considered out of context. Perhaps every definition needs a goal, definition, example, and bad example to clarify. I will try to coordinate more constructive feedback with other agencies but just like Section 508 _you_ have the responsibility and as a new participant I can do little more than audit your work. I certainly can't review all of the work provided by many others more intelligent and aware of the issues than myself. However, I challenge you to think differently. There are several issues Bruce is bringing up that should be addressed. This work is important and larger than any one of us. Regards, Norman B. Robinson Section 508 Coordinator IT Governance, US Postal Service -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Judy Brewer Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:51 PM To: Bailey, Bruce Cc: WCAG WG Subject: RE: Schedule for getting to Last Call Bruce, It's appropriate, and necessary, for any W3C Working Group to be planning ahead on how to move through the remaining document stages. So you will likely see more of this planning process in the future, including discussion of plans for stages beyond the next one. At the same time, all comments that the group receives are logged, and given consideration in the Working Group's process, and will continue to be as the document moves forward. Regards, - Judy
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