"Identify the image"

I add my congratulations for a job well done. Terrific!

I have a concern about the first Success criterion (now that is scary - but
actually I only have two other concerns about the whole document):

1.1.1 For non-text content that is used to convey information, text
alternatives identify the non-text content and convey the same information.

I think the text alternative should NOT "identify" the non-text content. It
should convey the information of the non-text content. 

There is heading image on the left side of http://borders.com with the text
in white letters on a greenish-blue background. The text is "Browse". The
information to be conveyed is "Browse." Identifying the image and conveying
the information could result in something like: alt=“blue background heading
image, browse”, or worse, alt= "heading image on the left side of the page
with the text in white letters on a greenish-blue background, browse". 

I think this SC should read: 
1.1.1 For non-text content that is used to convey information, text
alternatives convey the same information.

Why doesn't it? And I know there must be a good reason why you have
"identify" in there. 

Jim
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Gregg Vanderheiden
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 4:19 PM
To: 'Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Congratulations !!


Yes - there will be some differences between WCAG 1.0 and 2.0.   And we will
need to decide as a group at some point if we want to advise people on what
to do about that or not.  

One thing that has been suggested is that when WCAG 2.0 comes out people be
allowed to conform to one or the other.   Including being able to use WCAG
1.0 for older pages and WCAG 2.0 for new pages.

We don't have to say anything on this but I think there was interest in
creating some advice to those who might set policy in organizations or
publicly to help them understand what might make more sense if trying to
achieve different things.  It wouldn’t go in the guidelines but in some
other doc.  Either 'Understanding WCAG 2.0' or another doc.

 
Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 


-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:31 AM
To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: R: Congratulations !!


Thank u!
Only a note from a new document from EU:
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/e-government/resources/eaccessibility/sectio
n_5.asp#one

Recommendation 12
Ensure that government policy now builds applicable W3C WAI guideline
requirements into all public procurements of new website designs, major
upgrades, and all outsourced content production (such as reports,
publications etc). In the case of software procurement, such requirements
should apply equally regardless of the licensing model (open or
closed-source). Note: This will normally require WCAG 1.0 Level Double-A,
and may also include ATAG 1.0 Level Double-A and UAAG 1.0 (with an
appropriate conformance profile) where these would also be applicable.

Recommendation 14
Plan now to get existing sites up to at least Level A in the short term (by
the end of 2006) and to achieve Level Double-A in the mid-term (by end of
2008), prioritising carefully work applied to individual sites in order to
enable the quickest resolution of the most common problems and thus achieve
the biggest impact.

This means that by end of 2008 valid code is a requirement in Europe.




-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
Inviato: giovedì 24 novembre 2005 7.14
A: 'Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Oggetto: RE: Congratulations !!


Hi Roberto,

 There were many proposals with regard to validity, well formedness,
parse-ability etc.   The requirement in success criterion 4.1.1 was the one
that the group reached consensus on.  This was at the Nov 10 meeting. 
 
Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 

-----Original Message-----
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Of Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:42 PM
To: gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Congratulations !!


Sorry Gregg,
What mean this?

Optional Techniques (Advisory) for 4.1.1
Although not required for conformance, the following additional techniques
should be considered in order to make content more accessible. Not all
techniques can be used or would be effective in all situations.  Conforming
to specifications.  Validating delivery units.
 
There was a vote about validity where there was a decision that validity and
conformance to other specification is an optional?

----- Messaggio originale -----
    Da: "Gregg Vanderheiden"<gv@trace.wisc.edu>
    Inviato: 23/11/05 20.09.53
    A: "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org"<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
    Oggetto: Congratulations !!
      
    Congratulations everyone.
    
    We made the deadline and we have a new public draft of the WCAG 2.0
    
    http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/
    http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/
    http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/ 
    
    This was a massive effort by everyone.   We now have a cleaner, better,
and
    better documented version than we have ever had. 
    
    The techniques will need a work now - and we need to clear out the rest
of
    the issues on the guidelines etc.  I'm sure we will find things in the
    "UNDERSTANDING WCAG 2.0" doc (the old Guide Dog alias Guide doc) as well
    since it is a first draft.  It is amazing when you look at it to
remember
    that we assembled and wrote that whole thing in just the last couple
months.
    
    
    Lots still to do, but are on our way I think.  
    
    For now -- enjoy a week off well earned.  For those in the US - Happy
    Thanksgiving Day.   For the rest - a week off and our giving of thanks
to
    you for all your work. 
     
    Gregg, John, Wendy and Ben   
    For all the WCAG Chairs and Editors
    
     -- ------------------------------ 
    Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
    Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
    Director - Trace R & D Center 
    University of Wisconsin-Madison 
    
    
    
    Hi Wendy, Judy, All,
    
    Done docs have been published on http://www.w3.org/TR/
    
    HTML Techniques for WCAG 2.0
    W3C Working Draft 23 November 2005
    This version: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20051123/
    Latest version: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/ 
    
    Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 W3C Working Draft 23 November
2005
    This version: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20051123/
    Latest version: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ 
    
    Understanding WCAG 2.0
    W3C Working Draft 23 November 2005
    This version: http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20051123/
    Latest version: http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20 
    
    Regards,
    Matthieu
    
    
    
        

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