- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:10:28 -0600
- To: "Bailey, Bruce" <Bruce.Bailey@ed.gov>, "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, "Maurizio Boscarol" <maurizio@usabile.it>, "Yvette Hoitink" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Bruce Bailey wrote: <blockquote> Even with the glossary, "programmatically determined" is horribly, horribly opaque. Even for native English speakers. Even for native English speakers who are familiar with 508 and WCAG1. </blockquote> The definition of "programmatically determined" most recently accepted by the Working Group is as follows: <currentDefinition> Programmatically determined: Can be recognized by user agents, including assistive technologies, that support the technologies in the chosen baseline. </currentDefinition> I hope this is somewhat less opaque. John "Good design is accessible design." Dr. John M. Slatin, Director Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, fax 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu Web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bailey, Bruce Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:32 PM To: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG; Maurizio Boscarol; Yvette Hoitink Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: Validity as a technique > I'm not sure I fully understand what - validity as a necessary but > not sufficient technique for all the success criteria that require > something can be 'programmatically determined' - means. Even with the glossary, "programmatically determined" is horribly, horribly opaque. Even for native English speakers. Even for native English speakers who are familiar with 508 and WCAG1. But that is a topic probably best left to another time and thread. I am not sure the glossary is the best place to address this, but a solution to the question of validity as Level could be as easy as the following amendment: <blockquote> Programmatically determined means that the specific value can be determined in a standard, machine or software readable form. For example, content must pass validity tests for the version of the technology in use (whether it be conforming to a schema, Document Type Definition (DTD), or other tests described in the specification). </blockquote> > For example, in the case of table, the caption is programmatically > determined, but there is need to check if the caption is good... > The same with alt attribute, acronym, abbr and every element inside > a page. Yes, exactly correct! The *omission* of a caption (or whatever) can be programmatically determine. Okay, so maybe the language isn't the barrier I worry that it might be. Not that I have any good ideas about how to address that if it is a problem...
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