- From: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:37:50 +0100
- To: <mcmay@bestkungfu.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
This time I agree with Matt.
----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "Matt May"<mcmay@bestkungfu.com>
Inviato: 06/11/05 4.42.00
A: "WAI WCAG List"<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Oggetto: Process request on validity
The current debate over validity is the definition of a religious
war. We have one faction which expresses a strong objection to
validity as a Level 1 requirement; and one faction which expresses a
strong objection to anything else. The debate has caused the
participants on both sides to become more deeply entrenched in their
own positions, rather than trying to find middle ground. If this is
the case, the discussion has gone as far as it will go, and so we
don't waste time going over this until the end of time, we should
follow the process that is laid out for us.
The W3C Process Document states[1]:
"In some cases, even after careful consideration of all points of
view, a group might find itself unable to reach consensus. The Chair
MAY record a decision where there is dissent (i.e., there is at least
one Formal Objection) so that the group may make progress (for
example, to produce a deliverable in a timely manner). Dissenters
cannot stop a group's work simply by saying that they cannot live
with a decision. When the Chair believes that the Group has duly
considered the legitimate concerns of dissenters as far as is
possible and reasonable, the group SHOULD move on."
I think that it is clear by now that all points of view have been
carefully considered over the last five or so years I've been a part
of the WG. I encourage the chair to continue to pursue compromise
positions, as he has done, in an attempt to maintain WCAG 2 as a
consensus document. However, if and when it becomes clear that a
consensus position is not achievable, we should move on as soon as
possible, because there is too much work left to do, and this point
has derailed us too many times.
I would then ask chair to call for a vote on the level at which HTML
validity is placed, note that dissent exists among the participants,
and instruct dissenting parties to file a Formal Objection[2]
consistent with the rules set forth in the W3C Process Document. The
Formal Objection must be noted in the document, and must be reviewed
by the W3C Director at the next time the WG requests to advance the
document (i.e., to Last Call WD). Once the Director makes a decision
on this point, the matter is considered to be settled, and future
debate on the topic will be allowed only at the chair's discretion.
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[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#managing-
dissent
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/
policies.html#FormalObjection
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