- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:09:39 -0500
- To: "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "WAI-GL" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Joe Clark wrote: <blockquote> If we stop using hard-to-understand buzzwords for a moment, if you rearrange items on a Web page, they're not necessarily going to be easy to understand. I have opposed any endorsement whatsoever of remixing authors' Web pages without their foreknowledge and will continue to do so. It has no place in our guidelines. I just can't make anybody else understand that. You all think it's just the neatest thing you've ever seen in your lives, and you simply ignore all my evidence to the contrary. </blockquote> The success criterion in question isn't about reordering content without the author's foreknowledge. It calls for authors to ensure that readers can encounter content in an order which the author intends and which will make sense to the reader. Your concern about success criteria that would require content such as section titles and link text to make sense when removed from their context on the page has been noted, and is shared by a number of people in the WG. "Good design is accessible design." Dr. John M. Slatin, Director Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, fax 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu Web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Joe Clark Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:37 PM To: WAI-GL Subject: RE: Does order affect meaning (was: NEW: Issue #1609) > Greg Lowney says he can't think of real-world examples where > reordering > the contents would not affect their meaning. However, this depends on > the level you are considering: a set of delivery units, single delivery > units or even lower levels. If we stop using hard-to-understand buzzwords for a moment, if you rearrange items on a Web page, they're not necessarily going to be easy to understand. I have opposed any endorsement whatsoever of remixing authors' Web pages without their foreknowledge and will continue to do so. It has no place in our guidelines. I just can't make anybody else understand that. You all think it's just the neatest thing you've ever seen in your lives, and you simply ignore all my evidence to the contrary. > At the sentence level, the situation is obviously very different. We are not proposing to reorder sentences. The only examples people ever come up with-- *always* inspired by the supercool feature of Jaws-- are headings and links. -- Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> --This. --What's wrong with top-posting?
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