- From: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:15:20 +0200
- To: "'John M Slatin'" <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>, "'Yvette Hoitink'" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, "'WCAG WG mailing list'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi John, I don't understand your reply. Here is an example: <fieldset> <legend>Sex</legend> <label for="sessoM">Male</label> <input type="radio" size="20" id="sessoM" name="sex" /> <br /> <label for="sessoF">Female</label> <input type="radio" size="20" id="sessoF" name="sex" /> </fieldset> What's wrong? -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John M Slatin Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:06 PM To: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG; Yvette Hoitink; WCAG WG mailing list Subject: RE: Tests 186, 187, 188, 189, Roberto wrote: <blockquote> E006554318 </blockquote> The HTML spec allows for multiple labels to be associated with one form control. But I don't know of any screen reader that supports this. That makes it a user agent issue, perhaps, rather than a guidelines issue. So maybe we should accept the test. Tests are not normative, so it will be possible to update the test files as user agents, etc., evolve. John "Good design is accessible design." Dr. John M. Slatin, Director Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, fax 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu Web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:57 AM To: 'Yvette Hoitink'; 'WCAG WG mailing list' Subject: RE: Tests 186, 187, 188, 189, -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette Hoitink Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:40 PM To: 'WCAG WG mailing list' Subject: RE: Tests 186, 187, 188, 189, David MacDonald recommended to accept HTML test 187: INPUT element must have only one associated LABEL. [1] Are there any accessibility problems with having two labels associated with the same input element? To me it would that problems only occur if the wrong label is associated, but that's true if only 1 label is associated as well. Multiple labels are permitted by the HTML spec and used wisely it can actually benefit accessibility. Based on this, I would like to reject this test. Roberto Scano: There is a problem for label esplicit association. The "for" attribute refer to the ID and HTML spec don't authorize to use more than one ID per page. Yvette: A real-world example: a content management system we built allowed the user to choose between two images. We used radiobuttons placed below the images to make the selection. One radiobutton had a text to it that read something like 'use old photograph', the other 'use new photograph'. We chose to use both the image (where the alt text described the image) and the text as labels. This way, the user could either click the image or the text below it to make a selection, providing a larger click target for people with limited motor functions. Also, it made sure that both the alt-text of the image and the meaning of the radio button (to use that image) were associated with the radio button. Roberto Scano: Put the input inside a fieldset.
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