- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:26:32 -0500
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See below marked GV: Current wording Perceivable. Ensure that all content can be presented in form(s) that can be perceived by any user - except those aspects of the content that cannot be expressed in words. [js: The more I read and think about this, the more uncomfortable I get. What are the "aspects that cannot be expressed in words"? I assume that the intent of this exception is to exclude such things as musical notes, the brushstrokes in a painting? In other words, that we don't want to seem to be demanding that Web developers find some way to allow people who are Deaf to have a direct perception of audio content, or enable people who are blind to have direct visual perception of images, fonts, etc. If this is correct, I think we should somehow make it explicit. But we should be mindful that we're asking Web developers to make some very subtle philosophical and aesthetic distinctions, identifying what's irreducibly non-verbal. Do we really want to do that? GV: I can't think of how to make it explicit without losing its general nature. (and that would narrow its meaning). Would it change the intent of this provision to rephrase it as follows: " "Perceptible. Ensure that any Web content that can be expressed in words (language?) can be perceived by any user, either directly or with the aid of assistive technology. Provide equivalent alternatives for content that cannot be perceived by all users, either directly or with the aid of assistive technology."? GV: I think perceivable is better than perceptible. Not sure why. I think the 'expressed in words" as an escape clause - is easier to understand than as an entry clause. Also I think the principle is easier to understand in its simple form - with the escape clause following. (I do think it sound awkward though. Its just that the smooth versions - are harder to understand until after you understand it.) Try it on some friends. (End of this GV block) I am not convinced that we really need the wording about content that "cannot be expressed in words" if we make it clear that making non-verbal content available via assistive technologies satisfies this guideline. I worry that the presence of the phrase about content that cannot be expressed in words will create a huge obstacle/firestorm that could threaten adoption of WCAG 2.0] GV: "Making content available via assistive technology" has no meaning to most web designers - and that isn't what they have to do. Better to express this in terms that they can relate to, don't you think? Tough one to get your arms around - isn't it. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison Gv@trace.wisc.edu <mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu>, <http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send "lists" to listproc@trace.wisc.edu <mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu>
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