- From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:41:30 -0400
- To: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 08:08 AM 2001-09-19 , Jim Ley wrote: >et> >Subject: Re: [script] K-State example >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:02:58 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > >"Al Gilman" <asgilman@iamdigex.net> Wrote: >At 02:51 PM 2001-09-18 , Jim Ley wrote: >>> An example that may be worth considering is: >>> <<http://www.ksu.edu/>http://www.ksu.edu/><http://www.ksu.edu/>http://www.ks u.edu/ >> >>What I liked about this example is the fact >>that the information that is presented in the flyout >>submenus that depend on running the scripts is still >>available in the destination pages if you turn scripting >>off and just follow hyperlinks. >> >>That is the characteristic of this page that I found meritorious. >>If there is a better way to script it, do let's find an example of >>it done the better way. > >I certainly don't know of any that are both good examples of scripting >and accessible, if however what an accessible menu might look like could >be communicated to me, I'd gladly script one up to act as an example - >The main problems are how the fallback works in situations where >CSS/script is not available on the page with the menu. Not the where >just script is missing. > Well, the following fuzzy idea may take XML as opposed to HTML to do directly, perhaps. But the general approach that I have been keen to see someone play with is roughly as follows: - the menu contents is all in the XML source and the script permutes the visibility and or placement - The general idea is that the stuff should be there so that you can get to it pursuant to UAAG 2.3 and not only under 1.2. That may be idealized a bit, but where the contents of the menu has an HTML equivalent, it doesn't seem that much to ask. SVG might provide a better data model for the bacdrop (content matrix) in this exercise than HTML. Please note that it is not really a requirement that the theme+variations dynamic structure of the page with flyout submenus be re-created for voice-out access. Fewer stops in the 'expansion' sequence are OK, populated with static hypertext. This is not a bad design. Compare with the DAISY talking book. For browsing in speech, folding and unfolding individual branches of a tree is not that good an idea; probably better to have a table of contents with one global depth parameter and then browse the top n tiers of the contents tree. Talking book just has one table of navigation with whatever depth is in the book ToC and the fully expanded contents modulo notes sidebars and a few oddball conditional content classes like that. But those things are always navigable and their level of inclusion in the reading stream is modable. Al >Jim. >
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