- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:09:29 -0400
- To: <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "GLWAI Guidelines WG \(GL - WAI Guidelines WG\)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010911191237.00a890a0@pop.erols.com>
Greg, and what a wonderful parade of elephants i'tis .... At 11:56 PM 9/10/01 -0500, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote: >In working on the 2.0 comments it became clear that there were a number >of big issues that needed to be addressed. We referred to them as the >Elephant Issues. We therefore stopped to gather them. Here is the list >we came up with. > > > >#4 is missing because we later determined that it was a duplicate with >number 13 > > > > > > 2. User literacy level > > 3. Differences by language These two bear similarities, so may be combined ... see comment on #8 ... > 5. How document is interpreted by non-technical people This is a biggie .... the best presentation of the guidelines is still William's version ... which shows everything important on a single screenful! We can't ask our audience to accommodate folks they can't empathize with, if we can't do the same ... > 6. Implementation > > 7. Normative vs. informative (do we need normative?) If we include normative, there may be a tendency to consider these the "core" of the guidelines, with the informative checkpoints as "priority 3" irrespective of the group size and practical applications .... Perhaps not ... > 8. One version for all vs. multiple versions of web content We can have a "one version for all", but that single version accessibly-maximized page could reach a whole lot of people ... but there are some disabled folks whose needs can only be served by a single modality presentation ... perhaps achievable in some multi-choice browser of the future! > - client-side vs. server-side I think this mean "set by the browser" vs "set by the web author" ... you can set in the browser unless the web author provides it on the server side .... am I missing the meaning of this elephant? > - reading levels This is a tail of the 2/3 Elephant .... > 9. Access for absolutely all? > > - If not, how to draw line Don't .... If we don't explain how to make the web accessible to absolutely all (not necessarily in a single version of course) who will? > 10. Guidelines for all sites vs. special sites This corresponds with #9 ... > 11. Do we intend guidelines to be used by regulators and > requirements-setters (e.g., in companies)? Yes, and department appointees in various departments in government, and schools ... Our guidelines need to lead the follow through to authoring stuff such that a teacher can use a version x.x of Front Page and make a class page her Kindergartners can share with the same without needing to consult a bunch of technical guidelines so that the kids at her partner school for the blind and deaf can participate with the regular students .... Ah, perhaps I wax too educational ... <grin> Until Front Page is usable for accessibility without knowledge by the author, the guidelines need to reach down to the least technical of the potential audience (folks who make web sites that may come under federal or other national regulations) .... > 12. Accessibility vs. usability I'm never sure if usability is the large group and accessibility is subsumed ... or if accessibility is the extremes of usability .... > 13. Conformance - why do it? How to test? Testing tends to skew the importance of some checkpoints/guidelines. To the extent that testing a site helps an author find out which graphics they forgot to alt text as they edit the page, it's useful ... used as a distinction between priority levels, it could skew conformance away from the goal of accessibility for all ... > 14. Author and user needs conflict This basically boils down to user needs for authors to provide "more" content than they originally planned ... whether it's adding text to audio, or graphics, or adding the illustrations not originally imagined ... > 15. User and user needs conflict Not sure what this means ... > 16. What is an equivalent? When we define "equivalent", we see how important it is to make it clear that all modalities need an equivalent, including text content .... Anne Anne Pemberton apembert@erols.com http://www.erols.com/stevepem http://www.geocities.com/apembert45
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