- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:01:40 -0700
- To: "Charles F. Munat" <chas@munat.com>, "WAI Guidelines WG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 3:37 PM -0700 2001/8/24, Charles F. Munat wrote: >I have a better idea. Reject it out of hand. I'm not saying that Kynn's >intentions weren't good, just that the method he used is faulty. If Kynn can >formulate a real hypothesis and propose an experiment that *will* control >all the variables, then that would be great! I'm all for doing testing to >improve the guidelines. I just want us to avoid another wild goose chase >(and the concomitant flame wars). If I were trying to formulate a hypothesis and propose an experiment, I certainly would have done so. (In fact, a description of such is an another response to you, Chas.) But this isn't an experiment, despite your repeated use of the words; it's just one person's analysis of publicly available information (i.e. the WCAG 1.0 checkpoints). Which is to say that anyone could sit down and look at them, and derive their own results of this nature. It's ABSOLUTELY TRUE INCONTROVERTABLE FACT that WCAG 1.0 has more checkpoints about blind people than it does about photo-epileptic people, about deaf people, about people with cognitive disabilities. All I did was quantify that fact into numbers, and publish it. And this scares you for some reason. At 3:48 PM -0700 2001/8/24, Charles F. Munat wrote: >Expect more of this. With cross-postings, this whole thread may open up a >can of worms. Will we eventually be pressured to "close the guideline gap"? >Will groups demand that they have equal guideline representation? But, you see, the numbers are out there anyway. Anyone reading WCAG 1.0 will pretty clearly see that most of the document is about access by people who are blind. Now, the _hypothesis_ is that this affects how they view the guidelines. As I haven't even _done_ that experiment yet, you are pretty much blasting as "bad science" some observational data meant to support an experiment which hasn't even been done yet. Is it correct to also say that you wouldn't WANT such an experiment to be done? Is that true also? Your comments above seem to imply that even _if_ WCAG 1.0's organization leads to false impressions in readers, this kind of "information" shouldn't be distributed -- suppressed, even, Chas? -- because we don't like the results that we get or how people will interpret them. That's "good science"? >I hope not. But it gives one pause to think of where this all could lead: >lots of wasted hours having to explain over and over again why the number of >checkpoints does NOT reflect the degree to which a particular group has been >served. Yeah, how dare someone interpret information in a way we don't want them to! In the name of "science" let's squash all discussion of what these easily observable numbers really mean. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network ________________________________________ BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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