- From: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:41:34 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-gl@W3.org
An open issue: >67. Tolerance of synchronizing captions and audio descriptions > >Checkpoint 1.2 in the 14 August 2001 draft has the following success >criterion and note: > >3. descriptions and captions are synchronized with the events they >represent to within a tolerance of X. [Note: We need to research the >tolerance. Any information on this is appreciated.] Meeting minutes say: >#67WC ask Geoff Freed or someone at WBGH. >JW GV didn't want a number. >Action WC: Ask Geoff. While we're waiting for Geoff, I will point out that a specific time unit cannot be given. The best you can say is "descriptions and captions are closely synchronized" or "reasonably synchronized." In offline or prerecorded captioning, it is not uncommon to see captions when nobody is speaking-- e.g., a wordy but quickly-delivered monologue from Xaviera just ends, and we the audience are now presented with the stunned expression of Miguel, who cannot believe the diatribe he was just subjected to. We use this moment of silence to catch the captions up to what were actually spoken. I have witnessed two two-line captions appearing in such a space. That puts the last word of the last caption about six seconds after verbal delivery. No problem. One also sees captions in advance of delivery, though not very often, and I won't bother giving examples. Typically, though, in pop-up captioning the words are already on the screen as they are being spoken. Now, the pressing issue is real-time captioning, where captions can unavoidably appear a full half minute from the original utterance. That is very uncommon, but it happens: * captioning software crashes * program returns from commercial unexpectedly fast and stenocaptioner is busy blowing her nose ("OMIGOD! It's back!") * captioner must manually spell an important word, then wait for the software to spit it out (and spelling must be done by entering, in one technique, the syllables corresponding to the name of the letter: ell owe you gee aitch bee owe are owe you gee aitch [wait] [proceed]) * item was previously captioned; captioner recognizes it as such; captioner goes to scroll up the prepared captions; captions cannot be found; "OMIGOD"; keep looking; either find the file or begin stenocaptioning again * captioner is using modified and very weird sports-captioning technique, in which words are captioned in real time, the words are gathered up into pop-on captions, then sent out. Even under the best conditions, you can wait three seconds for a word to appear after it is spoken. In French, you can wait ten seconds, for reasons I won't bore you with. In audio description, you also find descriptions heard in advance of or after the fact. There is a tendency to avoid enormous time differentials, preferring to step on the dialogue and other audio to describe something in the here and now. This happens more often than neophytes think, though of course the incompetent Canadians will do anything to avoid that phenomenon, going so far as to refuse to describe something rather than describe over dialogue. In either case, there is a bias against extreme delays or anticipation in description timing. The most important fact? *All* of these variations are acceptable or unavoidable. You can find several of them in a single day's viewing. Do not infer from these anecdotes that 30 seconds would be an adequate time threshold for captioning. There are too many variables at work to assign a specific number. Just say "closely" or "reasonably" and trust people not to screw it up. Of my many complaints with captioning and my occasional complaints with description, unacceptably-delayed or -early presence isn't even on the Top 50. There are too many good reasons for slow or fast captions or descriptions for a body like the WCAG, whose members spend very little time watching accessible TV, to set deceptively tidy numerical standards. -- Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org | <http://joeclark.org/access/> Accessibility articles, resources, and critiques || "I can't pretend to understand the mind of Joe Clark" -- Larry Goldberg
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