- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:46:17 -0700
- To: "Matt May" <mcmay@bestkungfu.com>, "Wendy A Chisholm" <wendy@w3.org>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 10:11 AM -0700 2001/8/02, Matt May wrote: >I just don't think >that merely their presence as a rule increases access or usability. >The point I've been trying to make is that presence does not indicate >quality. But the same can be said for alt text. alt="IMAGE" alt="please download this graphic!" alt="grf373.gif" >Maybe Charles and Kynn are right that my issue is really with the compliance >scheme, and maybe sometime soon someone can tag me with an action item to >come up with tweaking it. But even absent a compliance scheme, I still have >trouble applying success criteria to a checkpoint when the true measure of >success can only be discovered through testing. I don't know, testing is a great thing (as you know) and it probably needs higher prominence in our guidelines. I think we all agree: 1. Illustrations, when used well, definitely do increase the usability of a site and the accessibility to people for whom text alone is a challenge. (I've heard nobody object to this, except perhaps for Jakob Nielsen, implicitly.) 2. Illustrations, when not used well, can introduce problems, or at best are "not helpful." 3. Illustrating content is not trivial; it's usually easier for most people to create alt text than to create an illustrative graphic, for example. 4. However, lack of illustrations may present a barrier to access for certain individuals. I am fairly certain that nobody here disagrees with those things. So the question simply is how to write a "guideline" or "checkpoint" that is acceptable -and- which conveys the above wisdom in a reasonable manner. My fear is that our reliance on being a "checklist" and not a "set of excellent principles and advice" has so limited our way of thinking that we are unable to see the value of simply stating the 4 points above! Because we MUST draft everything as "checkpoints", we lose out on the idea of "guidelines" which are good and useful. A checkpoint saying "fully illustrate all textual material" is absurd. However, advice saying "illustrating textual material will remove accessibility barriers" is amazingly useful and what's more it _needs_ to be said! Which is why I am really straddling the line here, but if forced to decide I would go with Anne's "side" because I believe I would rather have it explicitly told to web authors that "illustrations can help people" instead of simply having this folded into vague and generic statements about multi-modal data structures. The _concept_ is too important to lose just because we insist on having a checkpoint structure. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network Tel +1 949-567-7006 ________________________________________ BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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