- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>
- Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:18:35 -0400
- To: "gregory j. rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010802080408.009ed300@pop.erols.com>
Greg and Steven,
I followed your links, and thank you both. Since I am so visual,
Greg's experience with the hotel site helped me understand what was happening.
a real-life example of the type of site he described -- when i tried to get
>the phone number of the hotel from the hotel's web site in advance of
>attending the june face2face meetings in amsterdam, i couldn't get past the
>first page:
><http://www.hotel-prinshendrik.nl/>
The source code for the site is:
><html>
><head>
><title>Website of Hotel Prins Hendrik - Amsterdam</title>
><meta name="description" content="Website of Hotel Prins Hendrik * * *,
>located in the centre of Amsterdam.">
><meta name="keywords" content="hotel, hotels, * * * hotel, * * *, hotel
>prins hendrik, prins hendrik hotel, amsterdam, amsterdam-centre, centre of
>amsterdam, rooms, accomodation, accomodations, accommodation, acomodation,
>three stars, three, stars, canal, canals, gay-friendly, redlight district,
>red-light district, travel, holland, netherland, the netherlands,
>netherlands, tourism">
></head>
><BODY bgcolor="#FFF7D6">
><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
>
>codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
> ID=index WIDTH=100% HEIGHT=100%>
> <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="index.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high>
> <PARAM NAME=wmode VALUE=transparent> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFF7D6>
> <EMBED src="index.swf" quality=high wmode=transparent
> bgcolor=#FFF7D6 WIDTH=100% HEIGHT=100%
> TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
></OBJECT>
><BR>
The pages for the site seem to all be locked into the flash. Perhaps they
stand alone somewhere on the site, behind a quixotic subdirectory for
example. I wonder if a line could be inserted between the Body background
color and the beginning of the Object, to provide a link to an alternate
version of the pages. Dunno if it will show on the screen while the movie
is loading or not. You have the problem of updating two versions, but I
suspect that the individual pages could be updated then reinserted in the
movie script. Is this too obviously easy a solution?
Stephen suggested the following site as an example.
http://www.maxnet.co.nz/ As horizontal stripes are quite popular it
shouldn't be hard to find more.
The problem with this site seems to be the frames. The pages are distinct
on the site unlike the hotel example. But they all display in a somewhat
complex system of frames. And there is no option to avoid the frames. I
think most frames problems are solvable now, but this site didn't get the
message.
It's really a great site! Love the various illustrations ... checked out
the "Pig Sty", a site for kids to learn more about pigs ... and, when I
clicked on Cuisine, came to a wonderful site for recipes with a New Zealand
flare. One link, to Yum Yum, identified with a classic Smiley face licking
his lips, led to what seems to be a semi-commercial exchange of recipes. I
clicked on Recipes, and came to an input page to search their recipe
database. Next to the standard-looking input boxes is an illustration that
does not fit the "rules" I was working on yesterday .... but is absolutely
delightful. It in a black and white photo of a small girl who has made a
jolly mess of herself with a birthday cake. Brought back fun memories of
growing up the oldest of a large family, and as each sister reached her
first birthday, she was presented with her birthday cake and let go to do
what she would. All six adventures were recorded in black and white photos,
and as we all had kids and went thru the same first birthday celebration
the photos for the grandchildren, and those for the first few of the
great-grands are in color. Neat to see our family tradition going on so far
away! Tho, the girl in the picture may be older than a year.
So, thanks ever so much for the illustration of what you experienced. I can
see the problems, but they seem solvable with an application of information
to the folks who create the site. I may revisit that NZ site more today as
I study on what else to say for the sufficiency criteria instead of a list
of things to do.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
apembert@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/stevepem
http://www.geocities.com/apembert45
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