- From: Joel Sanda <joels@ecollege.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:33:13 -0600
- To: "'Anne Pemberton'" <apembert@erols.com>, "'Jo Miller'" <jo@bendingline.com>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Anne - Any method of representing one thing with another is a symbolic system of expression. But that means pure text is symbolic, as well - as is all language. The fear many of have, though, is that we're enforcing methods of expression onto developers and content authors. So we are talking about a symbolic system since we're using (or in the case of 3.4 insisting) folks uses additional symbols to express ideas, concepts, processes, and relationships. (insert your text for the checkpoint here). But I really think we have to say *IF* you are going to provide alternative symbols for the presentation of ideas, concepts, processes, and relationships, then follow these guidelines. By way of example I'd suggest your GeoCities Holiday's page at: http://www.geocities.com/apembert45/holidays/. That's an incredibly rich *SYMBOLIC* representation of ideas, contained in text and images. With a little JavaScript and the right sound files a mouseOver could produce meaningful sound *symbolice* representations of the ideas. But requiring this of developers and content authors makes the WCAG 2.0 *in*accessible to many. I don't feat excess - I fear folks pointint the guidelines and using 3.4 as a good business (resource) reason to not make the effort at implementing 3.4. Joel Sanda Product Manager -------------------------------------------------------www.eCollege.com eCollege joels@ecollege.com > p. 303.873.7400 x3021 > f. 303.632.1721 -----Original Message----- From: Anne Pemberton [mailto:apembert@erols.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:09 PM To: Joel Sanda; 'Jo Miller'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: RE Checkpoint 3.4 again Joel, Jo, and others, Please let me say again for the umpteenth time, what I am after is NOT any symbolic system. I just want the pages illustrated. I do NOT have the fears so many of you do that this will open the way to excess. While it is possible to have too much content on a page, there is nothing intrinsic to graphics and multi-media that can get excessive .... how many times have you clicked off a long-winded page halfway thru when it showed no sign of improving? Those of you new to the discussion missed the last time there was a request to illustrate what was meant in guideline 3, and I made up some illustrations in a very quick amount of time. They weren't near a much fun as Charles new ones .... which you notice, he did in pretty quick time, probably using software he uses somewhat regularly for other neat stuff. Illustrating your meaning isn't brain surgery .... it's one of the first things you were able to do with a hyperlink! Anne Anne Pemberton apembert@erols.com http://www.erols.com/stevepem http://www.geocities.com/apembert45
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