- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 00:13:52 -0800
- To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- Cc: "'w3c-wai-gl@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 05:45 PM 1/3/2001 , Al Gilman wrote: >At 08:20 AM 2001-01-03 -0500, Bailey, Bruce wrote: > > If the SVG is on an html page, then the size is fixed by the height and > > width of the embed or object tags. That's standard html behavior for images, plugins, Java applets, etc. >AG:: >So, how should this behave instead? From a user's point of view, I think it's bizarre that a user should need to maintain separate settings for font size based on a distinction that they are unable to grok. Here's an example: (a) The Kynn-O-Matic (tm) web editing program home page is made entirely with XHTML + CSS and no textual images. (There are some screenshots and illustrations, however.) Suzanne comes to the page and changes the size of her text. The "navigation buttons" increase in size the same amount as the text of the page. (b) Next, Suzanne goes to look at the Sean-In-A-Box software's page. That one is built using graphical text -- gif files as buttons. Suzanne also changes her font size and the text on the page increases, but the gif files do not. (c) Finally, Suzanne checks out the ChaalzToolz home page. This one is made using SVG, and fortunately, Suzanne installed an SVG plugin a few months back. She changes the size of the text...and like case (b), the navigation buttons do not change, but the body text changes. Suzanne is confused. She doesn't know SVG from GIF from CSS, nor should she be expected to. Suzanne simply wants to be able to read the navigation buttons. She _definitely_ won't know that she can right-click on Chaalz's navigation buttons and adjust the size (but not the viewport size) -- how on Earth would she know that, and know when to expect it? She can't do it with GIFs or JPEGs and those are far more common. SVG should be able to read the browser's default font size, and if the SVG is built properly (using relative, not absolute font sizes), it should scale appropriately. Now here's a dumb question for you -- can you set the size of a image, plugin, or applet in _ems_? And if you do, and you change your font size, will those "viewports" resize themselves magically? I admit I haven't ever tested this, nor even thought about it, really. Maybe it's a dumb idea, or maybe it's a cool idea. I don't know. If it works, it might be a technique for SVG and other scalable graphics formats. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://kynn.com/ Sr. Engineering Project Leader, Reef-Edapta http://www.reef.com/ Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain Internet http://www.idyllmtn.com/ Contributor, Special Edition Using XHTML http://kynn.com/+seuxhtml Unofficial Section 508 Checklist http://kynn.com/+section508
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