- From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:22:39 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Cc: Bruce.Bailey@ed.gov, j.chetwynd@btinternet.com
Hello all, The chairs and I created a proposal for etiquette on the list a while back but never submitted it to the group due to my error. Recent discussions have prompted me to finally submit our proposal. The issues that concerned us: 1. Personal insults. 2. Vague complaints without a clear statement of the problem or a proposed solution. 3. A lot of traffic that many people find overwhelming. In an attempt to help remedy these issues, the chairs and I would like to submit a proposal for discussion. Please note that we are not setting a policy with this proposal but asking for feedback. The goals of the proposal are 1. to help us more easily and clearly identify new issues, 2. to help us more efficiently resolve new issues, 3. to encourage people to think about a possible solution when raising an issue, 4. to decrease the number of personal attacks and other unwarranted behavior, 5. to cut down on some of the traffic, 6. to facilitate the discussion by techniques subgroups on this list rather than creating a separate list or lists to support these discussions. In no way do we want to hinder discussion or prevent people from raising issues. We are trying to move forward in a more organized manner so that we may work together more efficiently. This proposal is divided into four parts: A. Miscellaneous etiquette reminders B. Raising a new issue for the entire working group to consider. C. Carrying on a technology-specific discussion on the group's primary mailing list. D. Summary *** A. Miscellaneous etiquette reminders 1. Refrain from personal attacks and name calling. Never forget that you are communicating with human beings, not computers. Do not attack people if you cannot persuade them with your presentation of the facts (cite appropriate references to back your argument). Remember that there are other people reading your messages. We reserve the right to unsubscribe anyone who posts abusive material. 2. Be careful with humor and sarcasm. E-mail is easily misinterpreted; a remark that was meant to be funny can come across as rude. Often, it helps show you are joking by adding some sort of annotation like <grin/> or <smile/> or <chuckle/> or HHOK (Ha, ha - only kidding) or LOL (laughing out loud) or be creative and make up your own expressions. 3. This list has its own character, just like any "real" grouping of people (such as a party, or a meeting). The list functions best when people respect the character of the list. It's also good to respect the differences among list members and have a certain tolerance for our individual eccentricities. 4. This list is not meant to clarify 508. Questions about 508 should be sent to the access board http://www.access-board.gov/ This is not to ban discussions about 508 from this list, but to prevent members of this list from providing clarification on work that is not ours. Where 508 has made progress or created a solution that we can benefit from we should discuss and learn from their experience and incorporate into our work as necessary. *** B. Raising a new issue for the entire working group to consider. In order for an issue to be added to the issues list, to appear on meeting agendas, and to require specific resolution by the working group, it must be raised as described below. Naturally, before it is clearly identified and articulated, the issue may be discussed informally--this policy is not intended to limit the freedom of the working group to discuss ideas, to raise questions and to express concerns. Rather, it sets a "threshhold requirement" which must be satisfied before an issue will be documented as part of the working group process and formally resolved by consensus, through discussion and, if necessary, a vote. 1. To raise an issue via the mailing list which is separate from any of the issues currently under discussion, start a new thread by sending a message with a unique, descriptive subject line, which is not in reply to any earlier message. 2. To raise an issue during a meeting, make it clear that you are intending to introduce a new issue so this fact can be documented in the minutes, and either (a) offer to send details to the list; or (b) explain your concern briefly so as not to interrupt the flow of the meeting. It is entirely reasonable to ask the minute-taker to flag a certain point as being of concern, so that you will be reminded of it upon reading the minutes, and will hence remember to document it on the mailing list. 3. The following details regarding your issue should be provided, most of which can be omitted when discussing the issue informally or mentioning it during a meeting, but all of which should be included in any message sent to the mailing list (though not necessarily in this order): a. A brief explanation of the problem or concern which you think needs to be addressed. Try to keep it short and succinct, so that it can easily be added to the issues list and, if necessary, to a meeting agenda. b. An indication of which guidelines, checkpoints and/or techniques are affected by this issue. You should also identify any other issues currently under discussion, on which your issue depends or with which it is closely related. c. A proposed change to the relevant document or documents, that would address your concern, or an explanation of what you think a good proposal would need to achieve (if you can't think of a suitable proposal, it is entirely reasonable to invite other members of the group to contribute ideas). d. Any further explanation, elaboration or argumentation connected with the issue, or supporting your proposal, that you consider relevant. You may also wish to discuss possible alternative proposals and their merits. Two or more issues may be raised in a single mailing list message, provided they are closely interrelated and the subject line is written appropriately. *** C. Carrying on a technology-specific discussion on the group's primary mailing list. It is expected that each techniques document will have a subgroup of people contributing to the discussions, proposing techniques, etc. At this point we do not want to create a new list for these discussions, however people should be able to easily sift through these discussions to find the topics that interest them. Therefore, using the above guidelines, when creating a unique subject specify the language this refers to first. For example: [XHTML] Browser support information for the Q element [CSS] Using relative units *** D. Summary 1. New topics need new subject lines 2. If you raise a new issue, propose a possible solution 3. Respect each other. We are all on the same side. Thank you. --wendy -- wendy a chisholm world wide web consortium web accessibility initiative madison, wi usa tel: +1 608 663 6346 /--
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