- From: Jonathan Chetwynd <jay@peepo.com>
- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:35:53 -0000
- To: "Bruce Bailey" <bbailey@clark.net>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>, "Anne Pemberton" <apembert@crosslink.net>
- Cc: "Web Content Accessiblity Guidelines Mailing List" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
RE: Paid invitation to attend. I'd also love to attend and discuss the issue of cognitive disability. I have mentioned this to many members, and state it once again. The nature of the work, is that much is voluntary, and little well paid. Yesterday we had a masseur for the day working around the staff and students, a little perk. I suspect Anne works rather more hours than me. However we are basically in a similar situation, i only wish I could make such forceful statements so well. I always seem to be in a rush. Anne wrote: I participate only because I care deeply about this portion of the disabled population who gets downtrodden badly enough by life "as we know it" anyway. I give the time to the project that I can, but I can't do the work of the whole group all by myself. I would love to be able to attend the upcoming conference and address you in person, but I would have to finance it myself and cannot do so. jay@peepo.com Jonathan Chetwynd special needs teacher and web accessibility consultant. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net> To: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>; Jonathan Chetwynd <jay@peepo.com>; Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> Cc: Web Content Accessiblity Guidelines Mailing List <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Text equivalents > At 02:09 PM 3/15/2000 -0500, Bruce Bailey wrote: > >Anne, > >I think Gregory's point is that we should be looking for model pages/sites > >that meet your and Jonathan's expectations that are *ALSO* P1 compliant. > >There is not much virtue to addressing cognitive issues if such > >accommodations break the pages for other users. > > Bruce, some part of the point Jonathon and I are making is that it may not > yet be possible to both comply to the current guidelines and accommodate > the needs of those who got to the breakfast table last. I could much more > easily point out pages which are "P1 compliant" that are useless to most of > the disabled folks (the cognitively disabled, remember, are present in > greater numbers in the population than those who would perceive such pages > as "broken", and even greater number than the "rich folks" whose toys are > touted as deserving of accommodation. Certainly, this discussion group > should consider the needs of ALL disabled folks equally, not giving > preference to one group or another. > > I'm not sure how similar Jonathan's situation is to mine, but I am in this > group as an individual. I do not get paid, nor am I encouraged in any way > by my employer to participate. I participate only because I care deeply > about this portion of the disabled population who gets downtrodden badly > enough by life "as we know it" anyway. I give the time to the project that > I can, but I can't do the work of the whole group all by myself. I would > love to be able to attend the upcoming conference and address you in > person, but I would have to finance it myself and cannot do so. > > In the past, Jonathon and I have been asked to point out sites that were > appropriate for the audience we discuss, and it has been difficult to find > ones that were appropriate and not strictly entertainment. Now you expect > us to only report on appropriate sites that are compliant to guidelines > that literally ignore the needs of this group. Why? If you are one of the > members of this group who is well-addressed by the guidelines, and you are > frustrated because the sites appropriate for our folks unusable, perhaps it > would be well for you to reflect on how these folks may feel when they pay > taxes for sites you can use and they cannot before you display anger. > > I have, since you wrote, replied to Greg's points. I could do so only > because I am home today with a malady that is either a bad cold or a nasty > attack of spring allergy. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to reply > except to perhaps one response per night when I got home from work. I have > put in some six hours to replies today between sneezes, coughs, tissues and > C-tablets. Of course, if someone wanted to pay me to just work on these > issues, I could and would do more. Wanna volunteer? > > Anne > > > Anne L. Pemberton > http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Pav/Academy1 > http://www.erols.com/stevepem/Homeschooling > apembert@crosslink.net > Enabling Support Foundation > http://www.enabling.org >
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