- From: Leonard R. Kasday <kasday@acm.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:33:42 -0500
- To: <thatch@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: gv@trace.wisc.edu, "'Greg Lowney'" <greglo@microsoft.com>, "'Wendy A Chisholm'" <wendy@w3.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Hi Jim, I'll admit that it can get difficult getting a web developer to read a lengthly written prescription. But with the right tools, it's easier to teach these things than you might think. <shameless-advertisement> I'm finding that a tool I wrote, the WAVE ( http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/ ) seems to make it easier for people to understand these things by representing the accessibility features in a visual way. (As you might guess, the WAVE, unfortunately, isn't presently helpful to blind users, even though it's technically accessible... I'm trying to remedy that). For example, when a page uses tables for layout, the WAVE shows the borders of all the table cells, and numbers the cells 1, 2, 3, 4,... so you can see the reading order. It also displays the ALT text next to each image. This kind of display makes the techniques I suggested quicker to understand. </shameless-advertisement> So these things are teachable... and I think in the guidelines we should be reasonably complete, and use tools and education and outreach to help page designers apply the right techniques. Len p.s. Also, for the general public, we may want to avoid this issue of degenerate data tables... or at least relegate it to a footnote. I don't think it will even occur to most people that such objects are data tables at all... in fact I didn't notice it till you and Greg pointed it out. At 10:55 PM 3/16/00 -0600, thatch@us.ibm.com wrote: >BUT. Going to the detail that your assessment requires is too much for >the content guidelines. I think your analysis belongs in an advanced text >on usability for accessibility. It is impossible to present this kind of >detail in >the guideline. Well obviously it is not impossible. What is impossible is >that anybody will read it. Web developers don't have the time to go into >this >detail. ------- Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. Institute on Disabilities/UAP, and Department of Electrical Engineering Temple University 423 Ritter Annex, Philadelphia, PA 19122 kasday@acm.org http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY)
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