- From: Jonathan Chetwynd <jay@peepo.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:01:59 -0000
- To: "Dick Brown" <dickb@microsoft.com>, "Scott Luebking" <phoenixl@netcom.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I am currently looking for a www dictionary that produces a one sentence 'My first dictionary' response without banner ads, frames.. and not childish. No phonetics, no alternate meanings except gross ie mine: belonging to me mine: a deep hole Possibly providing a short list of similar sounding words eg dear: a loved one deer: a four legged animal with antlers Surely in a civilised society this is a simple and popular necessity. Ideally this should be incorporated in the current page without a refresh. http://dictionary.com Too many banner ads, and a little too verbose http://www.goldendome.net/Tools/WebSter No banner ads, much too verbose If you think you have seen something suitable please forward to me. jay@peepo.com Jonathan Chetwynd Special needs teacher / web accessibility consultant education and outreach working group member, web accessibility initiative, W3C ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Brown <dickb@microsoft.com> To: 'Jonathan Chetwynd' <jay@peepo.com>; Scott Luebking <phoenixl@netcom.com>; <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: RE: An article about Yahoo's simplicity of design > Jonathan Chetwynd wrote on Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:18 AM: > >>you might like to consider that some folks actually cannot read and Yahoo > is > a real mess for them. > > Jonathan, are you talking about people who are illiterate or those for whom > text is difficult to comprehend? (And maybe those two can amount to the same > thing.) > > Dick Brown > Program Manager, Web Accessibility > Microsoft Corp. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Chetwynd [mailto:jay@peepo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:18 AM > To: Scott Luebking; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org > Subject: Re: An article about Yahoo's simplicity of design > > > I am not quite sure where you got this from however www.google is far > cleaner and the results suit me. try peepo as keyword and compare results. > you might like to consider that some folks actually cannot read and Yahoo is > a real mess for them. > If you care to visit www.peepo.com you will see graphics attempting to > convey information. It is not perfect, nor finished. The first page will > have subject areas similar to yahoo but graphical. > I understand your meaning but it does not take into account the needs of > people with cognitive disabilities > tx > jay@peepo.com > > Jonathan Chetwynd > Special needs teacher / web accessibility consultant > education and outreach working group member, web accessibility initiative, > W3C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Luebking <phoenixl@netcom.com> > To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 3:43 PM > Subject: An article about Yahoo's simplicity of design > > > > Yahoo as design champion > > > > > > David Strom Special to The Daily Yomiuri > > > > Have you noticed that more and more Web sites are looking like the home > > page of Yahoo these days? What started out as subtle satire > > (naughty.com), then turned into portal envy (Excite, Netscape, Lycos and > > others) now has become a full-fledged Web designer's template > > (word.com). What is going on here? > > > > Well, the simple and basic reason is that Yahoo's home page is very > > simple and basic. It is easy to navigate, it doesn't take too long to > > load on even the slowest connections, and it just works well. Anyone, > > even my daughter, can grasp what to do and where to go within a few > > seconds of seeing it appear in a browser. Yahoo's home page doesn't have > > much in the way of fancy graphics, has no spinning objects or scrolling > > bars of information or other visual pollution. For the most part, it is > > just text and a few small graphics, and on a plain white background too. > > > > Word.com's head designer talks about selling out his design principles > > and just going with what the majority of visitors want. In a letter > > posted on their Web site last month, he actually apologizes to his > > readers and his authors (running older browser versions) who were unable > > to view his pages because of his fancy designs and cutting-edge > > technologies. I think this is a historic first and notable for the Web. > > > > The Web has gone full circle, from a place in 1995 that didn't even > > contain any graphics at all (remember the text-based browsers such as > > Lynx?) to a new visual art medium in 1997 to today's homogenous world > > where text once again is king. And I couldn't be happier. > > > > I avoid places on the Web that require Shockwave to navigate their sites > > as well as places that put navigation links inside graphics on their > > home pages. Why should I take the time to download this junk when I have > > other, more pressing things to do with my surfing time? So the > > Yahoo-ization of the Web is a good thing, not because I like the Yahoo > > design but because the message of ease of use is finally getting through > > to Web designers. And we will all be better off as a result, since we > > can get to where we want to go without waiting for the graphics to stop > > spinning or scrolling and just be able to concentrate on the text. > > > > >
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